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Welcome in to the BuiltOnAir podcast.
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We are in season twenty-four,
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episode four.
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Sounds like we’ve got five of us joining
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today.
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We’ve got myself, Ali, Kamille,
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and special guest Lisa.
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Welcome, Lisa.
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And she’s got her little baby with us
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that’s going to join as well.
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Good to have you.
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So Lisa’s gonna showcase some fun
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application that she BuiltOnAirtable and
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presented in the recent hackathon.
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You’re gonna walk us through how that all
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came together.
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So we’ll hear from Lisa in a second,
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but before we begin updates, any updates?
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I was going through the upcoming Airtable
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events
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There is a new feature spotlight today.
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It may have already happened and it’s
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British time zone.
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So yeah,
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I think that might’ve already happened,
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but there’s also the Airspace LA coming up
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in a couple of weeks.
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I believe Kamille’s gonna be there in her
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backyard.
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I was, I almost decided to go,
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but I’m going to be in LA on
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May twelfth.
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Like I arrived there that day,
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but I’m going to visit my brother and
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decided I’ll, I’ll do the family time.
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I can’t believe you would choose your
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brother over Airtable.
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I know, right?
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Got you.
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Yeah, a couple other upcoming events.
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No feature releases since we chatted last
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time.
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We went through all the recent ones.
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The one that I look back at,
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talking about the Cloud MCP integration,
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You know what I was realizing?
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It was showing all the tools that you
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can use in there.
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And there are certain tools that are only
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available in the MCP that are not
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available in the API.
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Let me look at that.
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Because that was my fear was that it
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was only going to do API related actions.
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Well, you know,
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it’s not that hard to build an Airtable
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integration.
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I do it all the time,
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but there’s certain limitations in the
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API.
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If cloud can do more than what the
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like publicly available API endpoints
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allow for,
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then that kind of opens up quite a
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few possibilities.
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So I’m curious to see what skills are
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not available.
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My browser is acting up right now.
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I can’t get to,
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I don’t know why it’s not loading.
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But yeah, if you pull up the,
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if you urge Google Airtable MCP and find
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a list of the tools.
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Yeah, let’s see.
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There we go, now I’m back up.
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Let’s see here.
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Okay, which one did I… Hmm, maybe…
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Get insights.
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Let’s see that these are just general,
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a general list.
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Yeah, all the ones on their main page.
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Maybe it’s just in the cloud.
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I’ll double check that and show next week.
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Oh yeah, I found it.
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It’s in Airtable’s documentation.
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Create table, create field, update table,
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update field, create records for table,
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get table schema.
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let’s see yeah that’s what i’m looking at
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and i’m not seeing what i saw last
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time so yeah looking maybe that was
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somewhere else that i saw it maybe the
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github possibly yeah or it might have been
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on claude’s marketplace
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anyways we can move on so yeah that
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was something i’ll look into and uh see
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how that yeah because that like Kamille
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said like that’s my fear as well as
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like hopefully anything they add they also
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make available in the in the rest api
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you don’t have a secret uh back door
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so
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Cool, so yeah,
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we talked about a couple of weeks ago,
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we went through the entries to the
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hackathon and a lot of amazing stuff.
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We thought it’d be cool to have one
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of the entries come on and showcase what
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they built.
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And I know Lisa came on,
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we had kind of a in-between when we
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were off from our season,
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we had a help session and I know
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Lisa came on and showed what you were
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working on.
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So that was cool to see.
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So now we’re gonna check out our
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application built around Friends.
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So if you’re a fan of Friends,
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you’ll like this.
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So there it is up on the screen.
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I don’t know if you’re available, Lisa.
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i am i’m so sorry of course my
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two-month-old was asleep in a nap right up
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until we had him on so hopefully he’ll
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be quiet um apologies for the side crying
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here um thank you everyone for letting me
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join today and there’s that burp sorry
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I’m excited to be here to talk about
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Friends with Airtable,
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which is the role-playing game that I
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created for the March’s Community
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Hackathon, Airtable Hackathon,
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and I decided to join the hackathon really
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for three reasons.
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One, because obviously I love Airtable,
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and I haven’t
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use their Omni app yet quite deeply.
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And so I thought maybe I’d take this
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opportunity to kind of explore a little
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bit.
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And I just happened to be on maternity
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leave.
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So it’s kind of like this all in
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terms of opportunity and timing.
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And so I was excited to in the
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let’s play theme was a really fun idea.
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I think Ellie,
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you guys were all involved in coming up
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with that.
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So I’m really,
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I was really intrigued by that.
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So I’ll talk about,
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I thought maybe what I was thinking was
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I’ll come talk about like how I got
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to,
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how I decided on making this particular
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app and then talk about like how I
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actually made the app.
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Would that be interesting or do you want
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me to just kind of go dive into
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the back end of this app?
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No, I want to hear the backstory.
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And maybe before you jump into that,
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give some context on how long you’ve been
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using Airtable, what kind of work you do,
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things like that about you.
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Sure.
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I am currently an operations manager for
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an innovation team at Link Logistics,
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which is America’s largest industrial real
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estate company.
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I just started in January,
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so please don’t ask me anything about what
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that is.
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I’m still learning myself.
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Um, but I previously worked at idea,
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which is like a global design consulting
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firm, um,
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the lactation network and new England
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conservatory.
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So I come from various industries,
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but my role has always been in designing
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the operational backbone of teams and
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managing pro developing managing programs.
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And I met Airtable.
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I like to talk about Airtable like we’re
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in a relationship.
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When I worked at IDEO back in twenty
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twenty one and the team that I was
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a part of at the time was just
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kind of really using as a basic project
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intake spreadsheet, glorified spreadsheet.
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But then we had to use multiple systems
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to actually complete the workflow,
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which was assigning designers onto
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projects.
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And of course, everyone thinks, OK,
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there’s got to be a better way.
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And because we were already using
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Airtable,
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I decided to binge watch YouTube of all
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the Airtable things and discover that I
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can do more than just this grid view
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and interface launch that following year.
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So the timing there aligned really well as
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well.
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And I ended up being able to consolidate
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our system into this one centralized
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Airtable workflow and use interface so
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that the rest of our company could kind
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of use it in their own way based
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off of the data that we had.
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So that was my introduction to Airtable.
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Unfortunately, ever since…
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IDEO,
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I haven’t had the chance to use Airtable
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at any of the other companies yet.
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I’ve always tried to implement,
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I’ve at least planted the seed there,
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like Airtable exists.
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So we’ll see if that ever blossoms in
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any of those places.
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But
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that’s always been um always like a wish
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list for me of to work at a
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place where Airtable might be welcomed
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and um explored um and so i haven’t
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i’ve been a little bit out at least
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professional like in my day-to-day work of
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using Airtable since but started to use
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it but i missed it so much i
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just said like okay i’m gonna start using
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it personally figure out how to keep using
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it so i kind of use it to
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manage my finances at the moment um but
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hope i’m hoping as i
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return from my maternity leave,
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that maybe that’s a conversation I can
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have at this new company as well.
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So always front and center for me to
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explore how Airtable can be introduced,
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which is kind of the reason why I
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also came to this idea of friends with
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Airtable.
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But that’s a little bit about me.
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Cool.
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Okay, so friends with Airtable,
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how I came to it,
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I kind of mentioned it.
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So one of the things I love doing
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in my current role of like designing
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operations that naturally comes with new
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processes are implemented,
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new tools are implemented.
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So that leads to leading training
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sessions.
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I have a background in classical music and
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I started my career in managing music
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education programs.
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And I also grew up in a household
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where my mother was a at home piano
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teacher.
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So teaching has always been kind of part
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of my life,
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but I’m continuously trying to improve.
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and develop my approach in enablement.
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This community hackathon just came up
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right in that perfect timing of me
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thinking about how does play play a role
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in enablement.
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I thought I’d take that opportunity to
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think about, okay, well,
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if I wanted to introduce Airtable,
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because in this recent year since I left
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IDEO, I would ask my managers,
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my colleagues, have you heard of Airtable?
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I haven’t really found anyone.
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who knew what Airtable was,
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which was really surprising to me because
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maybe because I’m in this bubble of
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Airtable fans,
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I thought everyone knew what Airtable was.
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And so it made me think about, okay,
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well,
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if I wanted to introduce Airtable more to
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new users or help new users onboard to
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Airtable quickly,
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How can I do that in a playful
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way?
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So that was like one of the questions
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I was trying to answer.
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And then also just some selfish
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opportunity for me to explore AI that
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Airtable has been developing in their
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apps.
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So with that, I actually,
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when I was at IDEO,
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I had a colleague,
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who talked to me about the intentional
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design around Super Mario,
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which is that with every, you know,
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like the run and jump game of Super
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Mario,
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and you learn from the very first
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interface where you learn that to move
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forward,
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you have to click the right arrow.
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And then eventually on the screen,
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it shows a little block that you realize
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that you have to jump to get on
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there.
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And then so at that moment,
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you discover that you need to push the
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up button to jump or the space button,
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whatever it is.
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And so this idea of that intentional
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progressive learning teaching really stuck
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with me is like, oh,
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that game was set up and designed in
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a way where you intentionally are learning
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one thing at a time.
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And then eventually you’re building all
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the skills,
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using all those different techniques that
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you learned to then become the master of
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playing that game.
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And that was very intriguing.
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And so I actually,
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I don’t know let me see if you
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can yeah start it with that concept like
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what if I taught Airtable through this
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like run and jump game so my initial
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concept was like okay I’ll just create you
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know a little run jump you’ll climb on
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these ladders and um
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you’ll hit enter and start a challenge.
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So the challenges themselves were all the
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same.
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I know for those of you who haven’t
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seen my RPG one,
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it’s like there are three different
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challenges or missions with various
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challenges.
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You’re trying to complete this challenge.
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And within that challenge,
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you’re learning a little bit about
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Airtable.
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And so that’s how I had set up
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this game initially,
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like a run and jump game.
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But then what I started to realize was
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that with this run and jump game,
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these challenges were becoming like
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almost like the enemy or like the blocker
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of you trying to complete the game.
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The focus of the game was really trying
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to get through to the end of the
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mission of the screen.
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And these were starting to look more like
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blockers.
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And I didn’t like that mindset of seeing
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these challenges,
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which are meant to be like learning
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opportunities to be seen as blockers.
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So it made me think about, well,
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what kind of game
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makes you want to seek out or to
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look forward to finding these challenges
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accomplished.
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Like that’s the main goal of the game
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rather it being kind of like the
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distraction of the main goal.
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And that’s how I ended up with the
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role-playing game.
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I actually never really played one.
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I never had a Game Boy growing up.
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So I’d never really experienced one
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myself,
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but
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i think i had a somewhat of a
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concept of what that was and so i
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kind of um designed it around as Dan
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mentioned i’m also a huge fan of friends
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um so i thought that would be fun
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to kind of have a companion to step
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to learn Airtable with alongside so like
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if you’re a friends fan there are
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six friends and they each kind of have
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a very distinct personality.
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So based on that,
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I created these avatars and then it’s a
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very,
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very simple
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RPG is not as fancy as some of
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those pixelated versions out there,
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but a basic one that I was able
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to create here.
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And essentially,
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there are three locations you could
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explore.
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The Central Park Cafe, Monica’s apartment,
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and Joey’s apartment.
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In each of those locations,
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there’s a challenge,
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a mission that you’re completing.
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And within those missions,
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three challenges.
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I’m going to pause there for a minute
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to see if there are any questions.
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But that’s kind of initially how I
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ended up with choosing an RPG game for
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my design.
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I just love the way you thought about
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it.
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Sorry.
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I might have a delay.
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I’m sorry.
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I was just reminding the audience that you
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can find Lisa’s explanation video for the
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contest on YouTube as well as all of
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the other submissions.
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It gives a nice deep dive into the
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app.
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I’m sure we’re going to get one,
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but just, you know.
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Yeah,
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I’ll post the link to it in the
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chat as well.
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I also wanted to mention Lisa actually won
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one of the awards with this,
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which was awesome.
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Congratulations.
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And I love the way you described thinking
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about that.
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I’m also a big fan of Super Mario.
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And Mario, I think,
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is the one that teaches you like that
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in the beginning.
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And I know exactly what you’re talking
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about.
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And it’s really helpful.
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And I also thought it was interesting how
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like you thought a lot about the
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psychology of the game,
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like thinking about those blockers rather
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than part of the game or like what
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you actually want the game to do.
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So I don’t know.
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I just, I admire that chain of thought.
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It was pretty cool.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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It’s,
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I was never a video game person growing
[00:16:54]
up.
[00:16:54]
So it felt weird to be creating a
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video game without that knowledge,
[00:16:57]
but it was really fun.
[00:16:59]
And just, again,
[00:17:00]
this was an opportunity for me to explore
[00:17:02]
what Omni could do.
[00:17:03]
And I just had no idea that Omni
[00:17:06]
could do this.
[00:17:06]
And I think,
[00:17:07]
I’m trying to remember.
[00:17:08]
There must have been some kind of
[00:17:09]
inspiration that I saw.
[00:17:10]
Maybe it was something that Mike shared,
[00:17:12]
someone shared.
[00:17:13]
But I was like, oh,
[00:17:14]
you can do or maybe even it was
[00:17:16]
this community hackathon.
[00:17:17]
And I was looking at like previous entries
[00:17:19]
from last year.
[00:17:20]
And I was like, oh, you could.
[00:17:23]
I didn’t really think about making a game
[00:17:25]
using Airtable.
[00:17:26]
Airtable is meant for work or expression,
[00:17:28]
you know, something or data organized.
[00:17:29]
And so that was a whole new thing.
[00:17:33]
change shift in how I saw data as
[00:17:36]
well and how I saw what Airtable could
[00:17:38]
do as a tool.
[00:17:39]
So I was really excited to dive in
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using Omni,
[00:17:42]
which is really what I used for building
[00:17:45]
this game.
[00:17:45]
And I know when I joined you guys
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during that office hour at that time when
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I was initially only trying to build using
[00:17:53]
Omni.
[00:17:54]
And so I didn’t do any like previous
[00:17:57]
database set up and I wasn’t really
[00:18:01]
thinking of using Claude as either.
[00:18:03]
So I was just trying to see how
[00:18:05]
much I can get done with Omni.
[00:18:06]
I was just having a back and forth
[00:18:07]
conversation with Omni throughout the
[00:18:10]
night.
[00:18:12]
to create something.
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But I think I mentioned this in that
[00:18:16]
episode as well.
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But I was hitting a brick wall was
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that I have to,
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there was just so many,
[00:18:24]
I was able to like create Monica’s
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apartment and its challenges, for example.
[00:18:28]
But then it was having I was having
[00:18:30]
trouble duplicating that for the other two
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in the same way.
[00:18:34]
And I was having to like do one
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at a time because I didn’t want to
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overwhelm me with create this entire
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thing.
[00:18:41]
So that was first of my one of
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my learn away takeaways was what you guys
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actually offered as a tip in that call
[00:18:50]
was build data first in the base and
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then have that to reference Omni to so
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that Omni can then build off of.
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that into like the visualization so it
[00:19:02]
took me even just to get to that
[00:19:03]
visualization station visualization like
[00:19:07]
three three days of back and forth but
[00:19:09]
then after that call i just re scratched
[00:19:11]
everything and started again and it
[00:19:12]
literally took me like a couple of hours
[00:19:15]
to just get to this like um getting
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all three built out so i was like
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wow that was much faster um
[00:19:23]
So just to take you back here to
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the data I was talking about what I
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what I initially built out,
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which I didn’t before.
[00:19:30]
And this is where also Claude came in
[00:19:32]
to kind of help me brainstorm ideas and
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write all these descriptions.
[00:19:37]
So I came up with the different missions
[00:19:40]
and the challenges for the theme.
[00:19:43]
And for those of you interested and aren’t
[00:19:45]
familiar with the game and Monica’s
[00:19:47]
apartment,
[00:19:48]
Monica’s trying to host Thanksgiving in
[00:19:49]
Joey’s apartment.
[00:19:50]
Joey’s trying to figure out his auditions
[00:19:53]
for acting roles.
[00:19:54]
And then in the Central Park,
[00:19:56]
Ross is hosting a trivia night.
[00:19:58]
So those are the three missions where you
[00:20:00]
as a player is pulled in to help
[00:20:03]
organize all of those.
[00:20:05]
And these are the different challenges
[00:20:06]
that come with it.
[00:20:08]
And then.
[00:20:10]
For each of those challenges,
[00:20:12]
there were some data that you needed to
[00:20:14]
have to support those challenges.
[00:20:19]
And so I had this for Monica’s mission
[00:20:22]
for hosting Thanksgiving.
[00:20:23]
You’ll need a guest list.
[00:20:24]
You’ll need dishes to be assigned.
[00:20:27]
So those are the database that I created
[00:20:29]
using Omni.
[00:20:31]
Similarly for Ross’s mission, which was,
[00:20:34]
again, hosting a trivia night,
[00:20:35]
you’ll need people who are participating,
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what team they’re on.
[00:20:39]
um and then the different questions and
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how how many points each of those
[00:20:43]
questions are worth and then let’s see oh
[00:20:46]
yeah the trivial that’s less important but
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a trivial category so those are the
[00:20:49]
database that i created for that one and
[00:20:52]
then for joey’s mission it was just
[00:20:53]
literally the the list of auditions that
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he had to complete so that’s kind of
[00:20:59]
what i
[00:21:01]
already established my base with initially
[00:21:03]
before even creating the custom interface.
[00:21:06]
But once that was set,
[00:21:08]
then I went to the interface and asked
[00:21:11]
Omni to build out.
[00:21:12]
And again,
[00:21:13]
I use Claw to help me kind of
[00:21:15]
fine tune the prompt.
[00:21:16]
writing for that initial build but build
[00:21:19]
out that ask of hey i want to
[00:21:21]
try to create this rpg i even like
[00:21:24]
added a screenshot of another rpg game
[00:21:28]
that i liked visually it’s like kind of
[00:21:30]
copy this style um and and that’s and
[00:21:34]
then it coded right and turn into this
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and i’ll just kind of show you you’ll
[00:21:39]
enter into
[00:21:41]
central perk there are you know furnitures
[00:21:44]
around and you walk up to that character
[00:21:47]
and i’ll ask you you know um ask
[00:21:51]
you for your help and then you start
[00:21:53]
your mission and then this kind of goes
[00:21:56]
into my next layer of interface um
[00:22:00]
My, my design here,
[00:22:01]
the game design is I was trying to,
[00:22:03]
because one of my goals is for this
[00:22:06]
new user On2Airtable to kind of
[00:22:08]
start familiarizing with what Airtable
[00:22:10]
could do and kind of think about kind
[00:22:13]
of help them click like, oh, okay.
[00:22:15]
Airtable can help me see data differently,
[00:22:20]
organize in a way that would be turned
[00:22:22]
into an actionable insight.
[00:22:25]
And so I was trying to simulate Airtable
[00:22:26]
as much as possible in the actual
[00:22:28]
challenges.
[00:22:30]
But obviously, it’s not perfect.
[00:22:32]
It’s not one-to-one.
[00:22:33]
It’s not exactly Airtable.
[00:22:35]
But this was meant to be like,
[00:22:36]
did you know Airtable has forms that you
[00:22:38]
can create?
[00:22:39]
And this is where you can build out
[00:22:43]
the form.
[00:22:44]
or complete the form.
[00:22:46]
And then you have to actually do two.
[00:22:49]
So let me go ahead and put that
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in there.
[00:22:52]
And then you’ll complete a challenge.
[00:22:54]
And then here, of course,
[00:22:56]
this always happens on a live stream.
[00:23:03]
Sorry, everyone.
[00:23:04]
I’m going to choose Monica’s apartment
[00:23:10]
here.
[00:23:16]
So you can see here like Airtable
[00:23:18]
basics.
[00:23:18]
You know it has a grid view.
[00:23:20]
What can you do with the group view?
[00:23:21]
You can do single select fields and fill
[00:23:24]
in information that way,
[00:23:26]
so that’s a very basic.
[00:23:28]
I want to start with something that you
[00:23:29]
know people are familiar with spreadsheets
[00:23:31]
and so that felt like a good starting
[00:23:33]
point as well.
[00:23:34]
And then here is another like I feel
[00:23:36]
like where Airtable gets a little bit
[00:23:37]
more powerful like you can group these to
[00:23:40]
help you know,
[00:23:42]
how many people you need to create
[00:23:45]
different specialized meals for,
[00:23:48]
and you can organize data in that way.
[00:23:51]
And then thinking about, okay,
[00:23:52]
now you can actually link records across
[00:23:54]
tables and assign like which food each of
[00:23:58]
these persons should prepare.
[00:24:01]
So kind of, again,
[00:24:02]
trying to embed those Airtable concepts
[00:24:05]
into these challenges in a playful,
[00:24:09]
way so that hopefully it’s starting to
[00:24:12]
spark people uh spark ideas into people’s
[00:24:16]
minds of like oh okay i didn’t realize
[00:24:17]
Airtable these are the different
[00:24:19]
capabilities of how data can be organized
[00:24:22]
um and air cable is helping me do
[00:24:24]
that um i was wondering i was trying
[00:24:28]
to think if
[00:24:30]
if you could actually embed like the
[00:24:33]
views, like the form or the table itself,
[00:24:36]
but you wouldn’t be able to like know
[00:24:38]
when they’ve completed it,
[00:24:40]
but in theory you could at least like
[00:24:42]
embed the real,
[00:24:44]
you could get like a chair view of
[00:24:46]
a table or something to at least give
[00:24:48]
the visual and the functionality,
[00:24:50]
but you wouldn’t be able to make it
[00:24:51]
like interactive like you have it.
[00:24:55]
Yeah.
[00:24:55]
I feel like,
[00:24:58]
I think maybe in the podcast episode after
[00:25:01]
the hackathon winners were announced,
[00:25:03]
you guys had mentioned about the limits of
[00:25:06]
being able to actually embed the real
[00:25:09]
Airtable views on here.
[00:25:11]
So I haven’t tested that myself.
[00:25:13]
Obviously, after the hackathon,
[00:25:14]
I haven’t worked on this.
[00:25:16]
But if I were to continue working on
[00:25:17]
it, I would be curious to like,
[00:25:19]
really push to see how much closer to
[00:25:23]
Airtable I could do?
[00:25:24]
Or to your point, Dan,
[00:25:26]
could I just even embed like a screenshot
[00:25:28]
or a link to a shared view that
[00:25:31]
actually show them like,
[00:25:32]
if you want to see what it actually
[00:25:33]
looks like on Airtable,
[00:25:35]
this is what it looks like.
[00:25:36]
looks like um because I think that is
[00:25:39]
really like the missing piece here um if
[00:25:42]
I were really trying to introduce people
[00:25:44]
into or familiarize them with Airtable
[00:25:47]
you could put it in an iframe so
[00:25:49]
it shows up there yeah but you wouldn’t
[00:25:52]
be able to interact with it
[00:25:55]
Like it itself would be interactive,
[00:25:57]
but you wouldn’t know like, okay,
[00:25:59]
they completed the grouping or whatever.
[00:26:01]
Yeah.
[00:26:03]
You’d be able to do the challenges.
[00:26:05]
Like someone has edited the select field
[00:26:09]
or submitted the form,
[00:26:10]
but like grouping and sorting,
[00:26:12]
I don’t know how you would be able
[00:26:14]
to check for that.
[00:26:15]
Yeah.
[00:26:16]
Yeah.
[00:26:17]
Unless you have one of those bases that
[00:26:19]
has,
[00:26:19]
do you remember like seven years ago or
[00:26:22]
something like that?
[00:26:23]
It might have been more like five or
[00:26:25]
six,
[00:26:25]
but Airtable released for like a couple
[00:26:27]
hours, editable shared view links.
[00:26:34]
That was an interesting day, yeah.
[00:26:35]
And then they’re like, oopsies,
[00:26:36]
that wasn’t real, sorry.
[00:26:37]
Yeah.
[00:26:39]
Which is a little funny because we’ve kind
[00:26:42]
of talked about before,
[00:26:43]
there’s several open source or not open
[00:26:47]
source alternatives to Airtable.
[00:26:49]
And one of them,
[00:26:51]
I want to say Teeble recently released
[00:26:53]
editable shared links.
[00:26:55]
And I was like, huh,
[00:26:56]
just look at that.
[00:26:57]
It was either Teeble or BaseRow,
[00:26:59]
one of those.
[00:27:02]
interesting yeah there’s a benefit i
[00:27:03]
remember when i worked at ideo we wanted
[00:27:06]
a shareable editable link we were using
[00:27:08]
Airtable as a way to collect designer
[00:27:11]
profiles and we wanted designers to be
[00:27:14]
able to go and edit their availability or
[00:27:16]
their skills or interests we were kind of
[00:27:18]
using it almost like their performance
[00:27:21]
goal um you know input and so we
[00:27:25]
ended up using like many extensions as a
[00:27:27]
third party um to make that happen but
[00:27:30]
Yeah, there’s definitely pros and cons.
[00:27:35]
Yeah.
[00:27:35]
Many extensions would certainly make it
[00:27:36]
more secure.
[00:27:39]
These shared links,
[00:27:40]
it was just like if anybody got a
[00:27:41]
hold of it,
[00:27:42]
they could edit the data in your base.
[00:27:45]
And you wouldn’t know who did it because
[00:27:47]
you don’t have to even log in.
[00:27:48]
Oh, sure.
[00:27:48]
Yes.
[00:27:49]
Yeah.
[00:27:52]
But it was like literally they announced
[00:27:54]
it.
[00:27:54]
And then like a couple hours later,
[00:27:55]
they were like, just kidding.
[00:27:57]
We didn’t know who announced that.
[00:28:00]
um but that was silly um oh and
[00:28:06]
then the one last thing that i did
[00:28:08]
added here too was tips so i after
[00:28:11]
other than the challenges another thing
[00:28:13]
people can do is explore and find tips
[00:28:15]
and that’s kind of like a you know
[00:28:17]
um seek and find situation where you can
[00:28:20]
kind of hover over
[00:28:22]
furniture to see which one pops up.
[00:28:24]
And if you click on it,
[00:28:25]
it gives you a little like insights like
[00:28:27]
here.
[00:28:28]
This is these are other Airtable things
[00:28:30]
that you know that exist that can help
[00:28:32]
you that you might be interested in
[00:28:36]
learning more about.
[00:28:37]
So that was the only other thing that
[00:28:39]
I included in this game.
[00:28:42]
And again,
[00:28:42]
that’s also in the the database as well
[00:28:46]
under the tips table where I
[00:28:51]
This was tricky because I think initially
[00:28:55]
I was trying to figure out how to
[00:28:58]
tell Omni of how to assign a tip
[00:29:01]
to a
[00:29:03]
emoji but sometimes i’m using multiple
[00:29:05]
emojis so that i have to create a
[00:29:08]
key column to make it you know a
[00:29:11]
very uh unique identifier so i think there
[00:29:15]
are a couple with couches yeah monica
[00:29:16]
couch versus a perk couch that’s kind of
[00:29:19]
how Airtable omni was able to figure
[00:29:22]
out which tip lived in which location
[00:29:26]
But that’s kind of the basic build.
[00:29:30]
I can share a little bit about my
[00:29:31]
experience of the challenges of using just
[00:29:34]
Omni only versus using Cloud to help
[00:29:38]
really make the edits in the source code.
[00:29:41]
But I’ll pause there again to see if
[00:29:42]
there’s anything else that you guys would
[00:29:44]
like for me to show you on the
[00:29:45]
game itself.
[00:29:48]
Yeah, definitely.
[00:29:49]
I’d also like if you show in the
[00:29:51]
editor,
[00:29:52]
just get people familiar with how the how
[00:29:55]
you actually go into to where the code
[00:29:57]
goes.
[00:29:59]
And how that works.
[00:30:02]
Yeah.
[00:30:04]
Yes, so on the interface,
[00:30:07]
there’s just this one interface that’s
[00:30:09]
created.
[00:30:10]
It’s a custom interface.
[00:30:12]
And then once you click on the custom
[00:30:14]
interface element on the right side,
[00:30:16]
there’s that menu drop down here.
[00:30:19]
You can download a source code or click
[00:30:21]
edit source code.
[00:30:24]
This is where I would, you know,
[00:30:27]
if there was something really
[00:30:30]
easy for me to edit i realized that
[00:30:32]
i could just go ahead and edit here
[00:30:33]
so that was really nice to kind of
[00:30:34]
discover like oh i don’t have to ask
[00:30:36]
omni if i want to change the emoji
[00:30:38]
for a character i can just do that
[00:30:40]
myself or if i realized that there was
[00:30:43]
a different um uh there’s like those
[00:30:47]
information tips um that was embedded on
[00:30:50]
the code i could just go ahead and
[00:30:52]
change there but that was another thing
[00:30:54]
that um
[00:30:56]
I was learning for me of trying to
[00:30:58]
figure out like how much of it should
[00:30:59]
be hard coded in the code versus what
[00:31:01]
should live in data.
[00:31:02]
Like what are some things that I might
[00:31:04]
want to be able to change or build
[00:31:06]
on in the future?
[00:31:08]
And so tips being one of those and
[00:31:11]
then like those challenges and missions
[00:31:12]
that those are the things that I realized
[00:31:15]
like, oh,
[00:31:15]
I want them to live in a database
[00:31:17]
and need to refer to that in the
[00:31:19]
code rather than it being hard coded in
[00:31:21]
the code.
[00:31:23]
So that was.
[00:31:24]
Another takeaway for me,
[00:31:26]
but this is essentially whenever something
[00:31:27]
went wrong or I want to do more
[00:31:29]
granular complex edits,
[00:31:31]
I would just copy and paste or download
[00:31:33]
the source code and then put it into
[00:31:34]
quality like hey,
[00:31:36]
here’s the current source code.
[00:31:38]
This is what I’m trying to do.
[00:31:40]
Help update the source code and they would
[00:31:42]
update it and then I will copy and
[00:31:43]
paste it back into here and save the
[00:31:46]
changes and that would make those updates.
[00:31:52]
That’s basically what I’ve landed on as
[00:31:54]
well recently.
[00:31:55]
That’s been my process.
[00:32:00]
It’s worked well.
[00:32:01]
Oh, sorry.
[00:32:02]
Go ahead.
[00:32:03]
I was just going to say something about
[00:32:05]
Omni’s coding that I’m not necessarily a
[00:32:08]
fan of, as everything is a single file.
[00:32:11]
So I mean, in real life,
[00:32:14]
if you were to code this,
[00:32:16]
and even if you were to code this
[00:32:17]
with a different AI, like Cloud Code,
[00:32:20]
it would build multiple files,
[00:32:22]
which is kind of standard practice to
[00:32:23]
compartmentalize certain functions and
[00:32:26]
features.
[00:32:27]
It’s easier to debug that way.
[00:32:29]
With Omni, everything is one big old file,
[00:32:32]
including the styling, I think.
[00:32:33]
So I find it a little difficult to
[00:32:36]
read oftentimes.
[00:32:40]
But, you know, it’s all here.
[00:32:41]
So it works.
[00:32:44]
That’s insightful.
[00:32:45]
I’m not a coder.
[00:32:46]
So for me,
[00:32:46]
this is what code looks like.
[00:32:48]
So that’s helpful to know that it’s a
[00:32:51]
different format.
[00:32:52]
It has been helpful as I create with
[00:32:57]
those sketches too, Ally,
[00:32:58]
that you were talking about in the recent
[00:33:00]
LinkedIn series that I did of turning
[00:33:02]
sketches into custom interfaces.
[00:33:05]
I would just copy
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So I was copied as custom interface source
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code and give it to a lot of
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you like refer to this as like your
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base reference.
[00:33:17]
So how air cable codes their custom
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interfaces,
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because what I was discovering was when I
[00:33:23]
was trying to make custom interfaces just
[00:33:24]
using Claude initially,
[00:33:26]
It would code in a way that when
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I paste it back in here,
[00:33:29]
Airtable would have trouble reading it for
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some reason.
[00:33:32]
They don’t know what’s going on,
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so I would have to figure out what
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the differences are.
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And so it’s been helpful to be able
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to refer to this style of coding.
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Again,
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not a coder can be able to use
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feel free to more technical terms around
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it, let me know.
[00:33:47]
Then build the custom interface that I
[00:33:49]
want to build on using the Airtables
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language essentially.
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I’ve used this code many times to
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reference to code plot to that.
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That’s cool.
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Yeah.
[00:34:07]
of what Kamille was talking about so
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there’s this version where you’re just
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doing it directly inside of Airtable
[00:34:13]
inside of their own editor and then they
[00:34:15]
have another layer that’s a bit more
[00:34:18]
technical and requires configuration and
[00:34:20]
setup where you can actually
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keep your code on your local machine and
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run it.
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And then you can actually deploy it as
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a component.
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And the benefit there is then it becomes
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reusable across different bases.
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And it has the better code structure where
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you can have multiple files and more kind
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of standardized.
[00:34:44]
And that’s usually if it’s a more complex
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plugin or something that you want to be
[00:34:49]
able to repurpose across bases.
[00:34:53]
I do find it a little odd that
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Omni’s custom elements are not reusable.
[00:34:59]
I mean,
[00:34:59]
you can download the code and say, hey,
[00:35:03]
Omni, here’s some code.
[00:35:05]
Make this again.
[00:35:06]
But that feels a little strange,
[00:35:07]
because if you want to update it,
[00:35:09]
now you have multiple places that you have
[00:35:11]
to go back and make those updates.
[00:35:13]
And Airtable already has a built-in method
[00:35:16]
of reusable custom elements.
[00:35:17]
I do wonder the reasoning there of not
[00:35:21]
letting them both be reusable.
[00:35:24]
My guess is a lot of this is
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probably hard coded as far as the table
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names and everything.
[00:35:30]
And it’s probably not built in a generic
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way that could be repurposed.
[00:35:36]
If you go back, Lisa, to your code,
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what I did notice is like the first,
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you know, one of the first blocks,
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line thirty seven down,
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it’s guessing what the tables might be and
[00:35:50]
then making them settings still.
[00:35:52]
So just in case you don’t fill out
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the settings, it’ll say, well,
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do you have a table that includes the
[00:35:58]
word avatar?
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That’s probably your avatar’s table.
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and so on and so forth.
[00:36:03]
So it’s not necessarily in this case,
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it’s not necessarily hard coded,
[00:36:06]
but it is a hard coded guess,
[00:36:09]
if that makes sense.
[00:36:12]
But I have seen other like first, second,
[00:36:16]
third passes with Omni where it’s like,
[00:36:19]
yeah,
[00:36:19]
pick the first table in the base and
[00:36:21]
it’s always going to be this table no
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matter what.
[00:36:23]
And you’re like, probably not.
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No,
[00:36:27]
maybe that should be a configurable
[00:36:28]
setting.
[00:36:32]
I found one thing that has been
[00:36:33]
frustrating for me,
[00:36:35]
especially with this custom properties
[00:36:36]
section is they, Lisa,
[00:36:39]
I wonder if you’ve struggled with this as
[00:36:40]
well,
[00:36:41]
is it sometimes will be like add a
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section that says should be allowed as a
[00:36:46]
property of each of those custom
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properties.
[00:36:49]
And it only puts in certain field types.
[00:36:51]
So like if I have a lookup of
[00:36:53]
a number field or a lookup of a
[00:36:55]
single select field,
[00:36:57]
It assumes that it’s a single select field
[00:36:59]
and then I can’t it like puts that
[00:37:01]
hard codes that value into the line and
[00:37:03]
then I can’t even pick my actual lookup
[00:37:05]
field from the drop down unless I go
[00:37:08]
and add it to that list of allowed
[00:37:10]
types.
[00:37:12]
I ran into this with a client yesterday,
[00:37:14]
like literally yesterday,
[00:37:17]
of it should have allowed for like a
[00:37:20]
date field or a formula that outputs a
[00:37:23]
date.
[00:37:23]
And there’s an extra hoop you got to
[00:37:26]
jump through for quite a few field types
[00:37:28]
if you want to include lookups, rollups,
[00:37:30]
and formulas in the equation.
[00:37:32]
Even create a time because that’s a date,
[00:37:36]
but it’s not.
[00:37:37]
It’s a different field type.
[00:37:41]
Yeah,
[00:37:41]
you guys are clearly more literate in
[00:37:45]
coding than I am.
[00:37:46]
I haven’t even looked at this entire
[00:37:48]
thing.
[00:37:48]
I would just always copy and paste it
[00:37:50]
to Claude, and they’ll tell them,
[00:37:51]
change the colors of this.
[00:37:54]
And then I don’t check the work of
[00:37:55]
Claude.
[00:37:56]
I just paste it back in here.
[00:37:57]
That is something that I thought this edit
[00:38:01]
mode was going to let me do,
[00:38:03]
was once I paste the new code,
[00:38:05]
that it would show me the preview on
[00:38:07]
the right of what I changed.
[00:38:10]
I would have to save the change,
[00:38:11]
like commit to the changes beforehand.
[00:38:13]
So that was a little bit scary.
[00:38:15]
If I was making like a little bit
[00:38:17]
more of a larger change,
[00:38:20]
then I would have to remember like to
[00:38:22]
save the old code and know like what
[00:38:25]
I’ve changed since then.
[00:38:28]
But that’s, yeah.
[00:38:30]
There’s a history.
[00:38:32]
If you hit this exit button and then
[00:38:35]
go click on those three little dots again,
[00:38:37]
there’s that history.
[00:38:39]
If you click any one of those,
[00:38:40]
it will roll you back.
[00:38:42]
It works differently than snapshots do in
[00:38:44]
a base,
[00:38:44]
whereas a snapshot would create a copy of
[00:38:47]
your base.
[00:38:47]
This actually rolls back the actual
[00:38:49]
element that you’re looking at to that
[00:38:51]
code at that time.
[00:38:53]
What I’m missing is the ability to,
[00:38:55]
when you save,
[00:38:56]
add a little note to be like,
[00:38:58]
this is the time I changed this.
[00:39:02]
Let’s observe these revision history
[00:39:04]
times, actually, if you don’t mind,
[00:39:06]
because how are you supposed to know which
[00:39:09]
one of these is the one to keep?
[00:39:11]
Yeah.
[00:39:12]
Some of these are minutes apart.
[00:39:16]
One of them is seven twenty a.m.
[00:39:18]
and one is seven twenty one a.m.
[00:39:20]
Good luck.
[00:39:25]
Is there, Allie, you mentioned a note.
[00:39:26]
You just meant like on a separate place.
[00:39:29]
Yeah.
[00:39:30]
Well, what you could do,
[00:39:31]
one thing you could do is write in
[00:39:32]
the comments of the code.
[00:39:33]
When you copy it from Claude,
[00:39:35]
or you could even ask Claude to do
[00:39:36]
it for you.
[00:39:36]
Say, when you give this back to me,
[00:39:38]
write in the comments at the top of
[00:39:40]
the code what changed between this and the
[00:39:43]
last.
[00:39:44]
But what I’m missing from Airtable is the
[00:39:47]
ability to,
[00:39:48]
like when you mouse over one of those
[00:39:50]
times, it says version fifty-nine,
[00:39:52]
version fifty-eight.
[00:39:54]
You should be able to give it a
[00:39:56]
little note or a little name yourself when
[00:39:58]
you hit save.
[00:39:59]
That would be really helpful.
[00:40:01]
Once again,
[00:40:02]
I’m begging Airtable to just use Git
[00:40:05]
behavior, the industry standard,
[00:40:08]
which I think
[00:40:10]
I don’t know necessarily if it forces you
[00:40:12]
to.
[00:40:12]
I think it depends on your Git provider
[00:40:14]
or your Git methodology.
[00:40:16]
But you oftentimes include what’s called a
[00:40:18]
commit message, which is,
[00:40:20]
as Ali is describing,
[00:40:21]
a little note that says, what happened?
[00:40:23]
What changed?
[00:40:26]
That would be nice.
[00:40:27]
Yeah, it would.
[00:40:29]
Yeah.
[00:40:30]
Someday, maybe.
[00:40:31]
Especially, actually,
[00:40:32]
now that I think about it,
[00:40:33]
especially with the omni-focused custom
[00:40:36]
elements, because most of the time,
[00:40:40]
your versions are going to come from a
[00:40:42]
prompt.
[00:40:43]
Include what the prompt was,
[00:40:45]
at the very least.
[00:40:47]
You manually making edits, yes,
[00:40:49]
it would be nice if you could manually
[00:40:50]
put in your little commit message,
[00:40:52]
but you know what the prompt was.
[00:40:55]
Slide that in there.
[00:40:56]
Agreed.
[00:40:58]
Yeah.
[00:41:02]
So what are your key takeaways having,
[00:41:05]
you know,
[00:41:05]
gone from never writing code to now,
[00:41:09]
you know, using Omni and this,
[00:41:12]
what are your lessons learned?
[00:41:14]
i i think my biggest takeaway with this
[00:41:17]
game creation one one always start with
[00:41:20]
building out get you know build out the
[00:41:22]
database first um so for omni to build
[00:41:26]
off of have something that i’ll need to
[00:41:29]
have something omni have something for
[00:41:32]
omni to refer to that makes it just
[00:41:34]
so much more cleaner you have more control
[00:41:36]
i think
[00:41:37]
The biggest challenge I was facing before
[00:41:39]
with Omni just creating everything was
[00:41:41]
there were just sometimes a lot of fields
[00:41:43]
I didn’t need that Omni thought that I
[00:41:45]
would need.
[00:41:45]
And then I was afraid to delete them
[00:41:46]
because I didn’t know how they connected
[00:41:48]
to the interface.
[00:41:50]
And then really knowing the strength of
[00:41:55]
Omni versus Claude,
[00:41:57]
knowing when to use which AI to help
[00:42:00]
with
[00:42:01]
changing the code or the design of the
[00:42:06]
custom interface and kind of relying on,
[00:42:08]
for me at least,
[00:42:09]
relying on both to make those updates to
[00:42:12]
get to the best design as possible.
[00:42:16]
I think we’re a couple of my key,
[00:42:18]
but and then like honestly having this
[00:42:21]
hackathon too was a helpful reminder of
[00:42:25]
you can just build things without being
[00:42:27]
asked to build things for someone else.
[00:42:29]
Like Airtable is.
[00:42:32]
Especially with Omni,
[00:42:34]
there’s no like credit limits.
[00:42:35]
You can speak with it all night and
[00:42:37]
you’re not gonna,
[00:42:38]
I don’t think you’re gonna run out of
[00:42:40]
any like tokens that’ll shut you out.
[00:42:43]
So it was just such a safe and
[00:42:45]
fun place to just explore.
[00:42:47]
And I have like,
[00:42:49]
fifty bases now in my workspace of just
[00:42:51]
trying to like explore what I can make
[00:42:54]
with Omni and the custom interfaces.
[00:42:56]
So it’s been really nice to take this
[00:42:58]
time during my leave of like, oh,
[00:42:59]
I’m just going to start building because I
[00:43:01]
can.
[00:43:01]
Airtable allows me to do that.
[00:43:03]
It’s a safe space for it.
[00:43:04]
Omni has these unlimited possibilities.
[00:43:09]
And so that’s like an advice I’ve been
[00:43:12]
giving myself and that I hope to share
[00:43:14]
with others of just start building
[00:43:16]
anything that you can think of and see
[00:43:19]
where it takes you.
[00:43:22]
Yeah,
[00:43:24]
I’d be curious at what point do people
[00:43:27]
switch over to say I’m just going to
[00:43:29]
build all my new interfaces in Omni versus
[00:43:33]
using the interface builder.
[00:43:34]
I don’t think either of you are there
[00:43:35]
yet, right?
[00:43:36]
Or you’re.
[00:43:36]
No,
[00:43:38]
so you still default to Airtable
[00:43:40]
interfaces.
[00:43:42]
yeah for the most part the Airtable
[00:43:46]
interface like standard options i’ll call
[00:43:49]
them are sufficient um there are times
[00:43:53]
where like specifically with things like a
[00:43:57]
chart element sometimes i want to do
[00:43:59]
something a little bit different um but it
[00:44:04]
hasn’t really come up so much for me
[00:44:07]
that i’m like yeah it’s time to build
[00:44:09]
a custom interface by the time i
[00:44:11]
Getting to that point, I’m like,
[00:44:13]
maybe the UI shouldn’t be Airtable,
[00:44:15]
and maybe it should be something else.
[00:44:17]
So I kind of go back and forth
[00:44:20]
about when is it the right time to
[00:44:23]
stay in Airtable but use some of the
[00:44:25]
more advanced features, if you will.
[00:44:28]
Yeah, makes sense.
[00:44:34]
Cool.
[00:44:34]
Well, thank you, Lisa, for coming on.
[00:44:37]
I appreciate it.
[00:44:37]
It was awesome.
[00:44:40]
Got some people watching here.
[00:44:41]
Thank you, Lisa.
[00:44:45]
Thank you for having me.
[00:44:46]
Yeah.
[00:44:47]
And then before we end,
[00:44:48]
I forgot to mention at the beginning of
[00:44:49]
the show,
[00:44:50]
one of our regulars that’s been on the
[00:44:53]
show, Scott Rose,
[00:44:54]
I promised him I’d give a shout out.
[00:44:56]
So community member,
[00:44:57]
you’ll see him all over answering
[00:44:59]
questions.
[00:45:00]
He wrote a book and wanted to promote
[00:45:03]
his book and he’s doing a raffle today.
[00:45:06]
So anybody that purchased the ebook,
[00:45:08]
which is I think just
[00:45:11]
He’ll put your name in for a raffle
[00:45:13]
for a hundred dollar Amazon card.
[00:45:15]
So I’m gonna post the link here on
[00:45:18]
the chat for people.
[00:45:21]
Congrats to Scott on that.
[00:45:23]
I know he’s put a lot of time
[00:45:25]
and effort into that.
[00:45:25]
A little bit outside of Airtable.
[00:45:27]
I’m sure he used Airtable to aggregate all
[00:45:29]
his notes for writing it.
[00:45:32]
So yeah, shout out for Scott on that.
[00:45:37]
The book is called Serving Larry’s
[00:45:39]
Hairline, a comedy about losing it all.
[00:45:43]
That’s right.
[00:45:44]
Yep.
[00:45:45]
So that’s good.
[00:45:47]
Awesome.
[00:45:47]
Well, thank you, Lisa,
[00:45:48]
again for joining us and for your son
[00:45:53]
for joining us as well.
[00:45:54]
And enjoy your maternity leave.
[00:45:57]
Glad you had some time to spend with
[00:45:58]
us.
[00:45:59]
And we’ll be back next week.
[00:46:00]
Have a great week, everyone.
[00:46:01]
Thank you.