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All right, welcome back.
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We are back with season twenty four of
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the BuiltOnAir podcast.
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Good to be back with everybody.
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Hopefully you had a good couple of weeks
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since we were last on the air and
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we were back for another eight episodes of
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this season.
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Good to be with everyone.
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Myself, Dan Fellars,
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Kamille Parks and Allia Losa.
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And we are joined by special guest Mike
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Simmons.
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Welcome, Mike.
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Thank you very much, Dan.
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I appreciate it.
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Good to have you on with us.
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We’ll have more to share with Mike in
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a second.
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So yeah, for this first episode,
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we’re going to walk through a couple of
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big events that happened in the Airtable
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space,
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as well as some updates and whatnot.
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But one thing that I noticed Airtable
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started
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started calling their events airspace.
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I don’t know when that started,
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but I think that’s what these,
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there’s a new one in LA, right?
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The air builder,
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but they’re calling it airspace.
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And I think the one they did in,
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in Europe somewhere,
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they also called that airspace when I was
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looking at there.
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So I figured it was appropriate.
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We start off the show.
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with some of these amazing pictures that
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just came out over the night of the
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other side of the moon.
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And so I don’t know if you guys
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are following this space adventure,
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but it’s pretty amazing.
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Incredible.
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Yeah, I watched this.
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I watched the launch with my son and
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he was like so excited.
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He’s almost two and a half.
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So he was just like blast off rocket.
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That’s awesome.
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Yeah, these pictures are pretty amazing.
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Oh my gosh.
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There you go.
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So I saw,
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I saw like they were announcing like
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airspace LA or something.
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I was like, Oh,
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is it going to be how like air
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table is used at NASA or something?
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I wonder,
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I wouldn’t be surprised if NASA is a
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customer.
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Yeah.
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That’d be funny.
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There’s gotta be a builder at NASA
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somewhere.
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yeah yeah so we’ll see all right okay
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with that since uh since we last left
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off there was a couple events um why
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don’t we let’s tackle Airtables first so
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Airtable had an event um called the
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Airtable build-a-thon and it was in new
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york and um
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It was an all day event where basically
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they had a challenge to use AI to
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build on Airtable.
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And I don’t know if they,
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here we go.
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Okay, so here’s the recap.
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Mm, mm, mm, mm.
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Lots of pictures, lots of people there.
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So there is bounty winners.
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So doesn’t give their full name,
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just their tag names.
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And they don’t announce, oh, here it is.
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Zach Nagin was both a bounty winner and
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the grand prize winner.
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Congratulations.
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Zach walked away with fifty thousand
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dollars.
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from a day in New York.
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Very cool.
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Let’s see what this says.
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Ali,
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I know you did not get the chance
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to attend.
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Kamille,
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did you get the chance by any chance?
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No.
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Yeah,
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I don’t think any of us were there.
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Yeah,
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this one was more Airtable AI focused,
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and that is not my expertise.
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So I sat this one out.
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Yeah.
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It looks like he built a AI powered
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creative agency workflow.
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Awesome.
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I’m so intrigued about like what the
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challenges were specifically.
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Like I’d love to just know an example
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of what they had to do.
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Let’s see.
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So there is attachment intelligence.
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So a contract anAllizer that automatically
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extract keys, key details,
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turning hours and creative interface
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element and then automated content,
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automated research and AI and automations.
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Okay.
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Which if we go through SACS, again,
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I do not know the rules or what
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criteria was used to decide who the winner
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was,
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but everything I could read about SACS
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build is it was related to some sort
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of content creation system.
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I believe I might be completely wrong.
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So that bound to your challenge might have
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been related.
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I have no clue, to be honest.
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Yeah.
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We’ll need to get,
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I’ll reach out to Zach and see if
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we can get him on the show.
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We can talk about what he built.
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That’d be cool.
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So yeah, congrats.
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So Matthew, Zach, Nasir, Don,
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and Parker were the bounty winners.
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I think they walked away with two thousand
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each.
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Yeah, two thousand each.
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So very cool.
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All right, so that was going on.
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But there is also another one,
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a community led hackathon that Mike and
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Ali and Kamille all helped judge.
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Mike,
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why don’t you talk us through what went
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on here and how it went down?
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Sure.
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So this was the second edition of the
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hackathon.
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First edition was back on November last
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year.
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That was super fun.
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Surprisingly or not,
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we had a lot of interest and engagement
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when that went down.
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Originally, the idea was like, basically,
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I made a post on the Airtable community,
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on the official Airtable community, like,
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hey, this could be fun.
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What are your thoughts?
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If I get maybe one like,
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I just go with it.
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And that’s pretty much what happened.
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As it started to grow or as I
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saw that people were actually signing up,
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I was like, oh,
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this means that I now need to actually
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organize this,
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which was not entirely on my plans.
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That went well back then.
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Again, first edition.
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We did not have a theme for it.
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It was like, hey, free for all.
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Let’s just have fun.
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Let’s see what we can come up with.
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Again, different structure or schema,
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because back then we decided to have a
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forty eight hour build out timeframe or
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period.
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with some pros and cons.
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But basically,
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that made everybody rush on their builds.
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We did get to see some amazing stuff,
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super fun build outs.
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And it is interesting because, again,
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back then,
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Airtable was already pushing with their AI
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features, AI lab.
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Custom interfaces were only kind of a
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thing back then.
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And do remember,
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this was only a few months ago.
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So not all submissions included AI
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features.
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Do remember that we have three different
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awards for the hackathon,
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both for this edition and for the past
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edition.
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The Grand Jewelry Award,
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where Kamille and Ali participated as
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jewelries, the AI Award,
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which is obviously AI focused,
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and the base fluencer award.
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Base fluencer award,
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it goes to the submission which gets the
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most amount of likes on YouTube.
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And for the last edition,
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I should double check the numbers,
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but maybe only sixty to seventy percent of
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the submissions used AI,
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whilst on this other hackathon,
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the terms were pretty different.
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Still three awards,
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but we had about fifteen days for people
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to work on their submission, right?
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A hundred percent of all submissions were
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AI driven or used AI.
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And in this case,
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we did have a theme which Ali was
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amazing at choosing, which was let’s play,
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meaning, hey, let’s build a game for it.
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I do not know,
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and maybe you can help me discuss or
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understand this,
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I do not know whether the fact that
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we had to build a game using Airtable
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led to people using more and more AI,
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a hundred percent of the submissions,
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or whether AI is just a thing and
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people are finding it really helpful.
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Whichever the case is,
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the theme was super interesting,
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super fun.
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It made people want to post and share
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their build out through the ten to fifteen
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days building period,
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which was amazing because we could follow
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their kind of like building public stuff
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through LinkedIn.
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They were posting on a weekly basis their
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progress.
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It was super fun to see progress.
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I think that that also sparked creativity.
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It also led to
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the whole kind of point of the hackathon
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which is to have some fun to generate
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some community to get to know each other
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we’re spending at least in my case and
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i can recap to what’s my Airtable
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journey in a few minutes but basically i’m
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spending more than a couple of hours a
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day maybe sometimes uh answering questions
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in the community however i do not
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personally know each of you uh but i
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did meet ali i did meet erica and
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i’ve been meeting
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tens, I don’t think hundreds,
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but tens of people throughout this
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journey.
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And I do believe that that is kind
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of the idea or the whole point of
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the hackathon,
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to bring us together as a community to
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see what we can build and to spark
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imagination.
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We’ll go through some of those submissions
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probably in a few minutes.
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But you’ll notice that some of them,
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they are huge buildouts, really complex,
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robust buildouts.
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Other, for instance, mine,
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it’s a very small, specific thing.
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And that’s kind of what I also want
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to encourage.
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Hey,
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we do not really need to build huge
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things,
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which
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don’t take me wrong,
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I’m really encouraging those kinds of
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build-outs,
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but just getting something out there,
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showing some nice feature that we did not
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know was possible to build with Airtable
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or something different,
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or just have some fun,
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that should be enough to get the
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submissions.
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So that is kind of like the backstory
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of the hackathon.
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Very cool.
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All right.
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Should we announce the winners of each
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category?
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Sure.
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I know you already announced it,
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but which ones are they?
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Camilla and Ali,
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would you like to go with the grand
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jury?
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Yeah, but I’m terrible at names.
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My goodness.
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I remember it very clearly.
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Yeah.
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Nicholas Atkins was his name, I believe.
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And it was called Last Admin Standing.
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Oops.
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It was the Grand Jury Award.
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Yes, down there in the bottom right.
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Yes, it was Akins, excuse me.
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Incredible.
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Just, I mean,
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so many of them were so incredible.
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This was like such a hard, honestly,
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like every single one was just like mind
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blowing.
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It was a very difficult decision.
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But his really blew all of us away.
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It was like,
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Every piece you could control on the back
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end.
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You could control the strength of every
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weapon used in the game.
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You could change the imagery,
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the creative direction.
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It was all just everything configurable.
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And it really felt like this could be
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a new wave of gaming.
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It’s like your personal game creation
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machine.
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Yeah,
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I had my own loose set of criteria
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when judging of like,
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how gamey is this game?
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How much is Airtable relevant to the
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build?
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Because if you go the custom extension
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route,
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you’re basically building a React app and
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your React app doesn’t technically have to
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talk to Airtable at all.
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Your base could be one table with one
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field,
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but that’s not really using Airtable.
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You know what I mean?
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With last admin standing,
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it was exactly as Ali said,
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there were so many tables
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And each table had fields that directly
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controlled the underpinnings of the app or
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the game itself.
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And it kind of reminded me of if
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you play Skyrim or something,
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at this point,
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you probably have a lot of mods.
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You can basically make your own mods for
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the game.
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You can go in and change.
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how fast the enemies move,
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how many enemies are there,
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which enemies show up at what point,
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like every little detail about the game
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was controllable if you went to view data
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in Airtable.
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And furthermore,
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coming to two additional comments on that
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matter, which is one,
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I might be wrong because once again,
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as mentioned,
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we do not get full access to the
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basis.
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We only get access to what participants
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show on the demo, right?
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But if I’m not wrong,
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most of these things that you are
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describing,
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they are AI generated with
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AI fields in Airtable.
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So it is currently set or static in
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the sense that we currently have whatever,
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four types of different enemies,
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but this is dynamic in the sense,
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this is my understanding again,
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this is dynamic in the sense that we
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could be generating as many enemies or
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tools or weapons or whatever the case is.
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And I’m pretty sure that they will be
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pretty fun.
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The second comment,
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which is if you pay attention to the
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description of what’s going on in the
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game, it’s something like,
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what’s the word for it,
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especially in English,
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like a hunted workspace.
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So it is not only created using Airtable,
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but it’s also Airtable related in the
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sense that the whole idea or the backstory
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to it is it’s a hunted workspace.
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again,
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Airtable workspace and different Airtable
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related things or challenges are coming
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along.
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So that was super fun or cute for
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it.
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Yes, I love it.
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And that was a theme as well.
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like Airtable being a meta component of
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the game itself.
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We featured friends with Airtable on the
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podcast before,
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and it’s kind of like demo state,
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and that one was very much like, oh,
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learn how to use Airtable using this game
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built in Airtable.
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Which, whenever we’re ready,
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we can move forward with Lisa’s
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submission, because she won…
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the AI award.
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What is really, really cool about…
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So we were having some moments ago a
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discussion where we see,
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or at least I speak for myself,
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we have two different sets of submissions.
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A few of them, or many of them,
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to be honest, which went really,
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really heavy lifting on the…
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AI custom interfaces aspect of Airtable,
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which is amazing because as Dan will
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probably show in a minute,
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great things can be built such as friends
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with Airtable.
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However, it does seem kind of…
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far from what we’ve been seeing for so
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many years in Airtable.
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So this other set of submissions were
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really leveraging AI native interfaces,
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but using some AI on the back.
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The distinction is really fun to see.
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And this is a great example of what
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actually can be built,
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taking it to its limits for the AI
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custom interfaces using Airtable.
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as I believe it was Ali who was
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mentioning.
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No, Camila, I think she was mentioning.
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Basically, the idea of this submission is,
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hey,
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if you do not know how Airtable works
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exactly, or if you’re starting out,
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let me show you around some sort of
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like Airtable Academy,
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but gamified in such a way that really
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makes it really, really fun.
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you are interacting with different
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characters from the Friends show.
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And they have actual references to stuff
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that happens on the different episodes.
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So that is really fun.
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The only thing I might mention is,
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but this is not something Lisa’s lagging
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behind with,
[00:17:22]
but it’s just what we can achieve with
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Airtable custom interfaces,
[00:17:25]
is that when setting up automations,
[00:17:27]
for instance, through the game,
[00:17:29]
because one of the prompts or challenges
[00:17:31]
is, hey,
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you need to build this automation to help
[00:17:34]
Joey do whatever.
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The interface or the experience is not
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exactly the same as what we would find
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on the backend when building automations,
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but there is no way we can actually
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achieve that.
[00:17:47]
So I must say, this was amazing.
[00:17:49]
The fact that she was able to move
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through the game,
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just talking to different characters,
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that was something else.
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I really, really loved this.
[00:18:00]
And once again,
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Same comment as for the previous
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submission.
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It’s interesting to see how this is a
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game, but it’s also Airtable related.
[00:18:10]
So not only built with Airtable,
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but Airtable related.
[00:18:13]
I love that stuff.
[00:18:14]
So congratulations, Lisa.
[00:18:17]
Yes, I really loved this one,
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and it was just so funny.
[00:18:20]
Like, I love all the,
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she had so many little, like,
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just jokes in there, like,
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thrown in if you’re a big fan of
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Friends.
[00:18:28]
I’m sure there are just,
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I haven’t seen a ton of it,
[00:18:31]
so I’m sure there’s a lot I’m even
[00:18:33]
missing,
[00:18:33]
but I can pick up on how intricate
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all the, like,
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jokes and everything are in this.
[00:18:40]
And I love how she pointed out,
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she was like,
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it’s going to be a simulated Airtable
[00:18:44]
view in her room.
[00:18:45]
um in her video which was really well
[00:18:48]
done as well um just and i loved
[00:18:52]
the theme the idea of like teaching how
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to use Airtable as a gamified experience
[00:18:58]
just chef’s kiss
[00:19:05]
yeah this is amazing yeah this one um
[00:19:08]
very impressive especially for the ai
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award because if i’m not mistaken she
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started with like completely blank and
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prompted her whole way through
[00:19:18]
So, you know, like Mike said,
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some were you go in,
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you build your own kind of foundation,
[00:19:26]
and then you use AI to sort of
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help you along the way.
[00:19:29]
This one was like start to finish.
[00:19:31]
I’m using Omni,
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and Omni is going to help me build
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every little component,
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including the back end.
[00:19:38]
And you’ll see, I mean,
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look at the tables.
[00:19:40]
It also is highly controlled from the base
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itself,
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which was ranked high on my criteria of
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AI.
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The schema’s got to matter if it’s inside
[00:19:49]
an Airtable base.
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And if I remember correctly,
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when she came on,
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she did not have a background in software
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development or anything.
[00:20:00]
So she’s really jumped into this without a
[00:20:05]
ton of that background experience.
[00:20:09]
She caught the bug for Airtable like the
[00:20:11]
rest of us.
[00:20:12]
She’s a citizen developer and has fallen
[00:20:16]
in love with it.
[00:20:17]
Yeah.
[00:20:18]
So cool.
[00:20:19]
So what, what, what, so this one,
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one of the categories, AI award.
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Okay.
[00:20:24]
Cool.
[00:20:24]
Cool.
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And for last, this is usual suspects,
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right?
[00:20:34]
We have Erica winning the Bass Fluencer
[00:20:36]
Award.
[00:20:36]
She won last year as well.
[00:20:41]
Last year, if I’m not wrong,
[00:20:42]
she won both the Bass Fluencer and Grand
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Jury.
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I know she won two.
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I do not remember exactly Bass Fluencer.
[00:20:50]
I think it was Grand Jury, right?
[00:20:51]
It’s not the Grand Jury.
[00:20:55]
AI Award.
[00:20:55]
Oh, the AI Award,
[00:20:56]
where she built this amazing either…
[00:20:59]
Dot.
[00:21:02]
Yeah, her dodgeball.
[00:21:04]
It was about her dodgeball career.
[00:21:07]
It was really cool,
[00:21:09]
and it could even create workout plans for
[00:21:10]
her.
[00:21:11]
Yeah, that was super interesting.
[00:21:13]
So going back to Erika’s submission for
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this edition,
[00:21:17]
she built what she calls the, well,
[00:21:19]
actually, what’s a telephone pictionary,
[00:21:21]
but an Airtable.
[00:21:23]
I’m not a hundred percent familiar with
[00:21:24]
how telephone Pictionary works,
[00:21:26]
but my understanding is something around
[00:21:28]
the lines of somebody writes a sentence,
[00:21:31]
we pass it over, we draw something,
[00:21:34]
by the end of the round,
[00:21:35]
we need to understand kind of,
[00:21:36]
or see the differences between,
[00:21:38]
or how close we got to the initial
[00:21:41]
sentence, right?
[00:21:42]
This is a great example of what I
[00:21:44]
was saying,
[00:21:45]
how we have like actual native interfaces.
[00:21:47]
For instance, this seems to be a, well,
[00:21:49]
the previous one seemed to be a,
[00:21:51]
a record review page layout on interfaces
[00:21:55]
and that kind of things i really miss
[00:21:57]
when i see don’t get me wrong this
[00:21:59]
other crazy interface is all over the
[00:22:02]
place with flashy colors so on and so
[00:22:03]
forth they are amazing but they i
[00:22:05]
definitely love and by the way record
[00:22:07]
review page layout is my personal favorite
[00:22:09]
uh
[00:22:11]
So having said that, yes,
[00:22:13]
this was super fun.
[00:22:14]
And the other fun comment about it is
[00:22:17]
that this is kind of like a multiplayer
[00:22:19]
game,
[00:22:19]
which involves multiple parties playing
[00:22:22]
together,
[00:22:24]
which brings us back to what Russ and
[00:22:27]
Jessica built,
[00:22:29]
which was completely different,
[00:22:30]
but something similar in the sense that
[00:22:32]
can be played by multiple parties.
[00:22:35]
So again, Erica, congratulations again,
[00:22:37]
and thank you.
[00:22:38]
Thank you, thank you,
[00:22:39]
thank you for being part of the grand
[00:22:41]
jury this year.
[00:22:42]
And while you’re at it, thank you,
[00:22:43]
Kamille, and thank you, Ali, as well.
[00:22:46]
Of course.
[00:22:47]
Thank you.
[00:22:48]
It was wonderful.
[00:22:49]
I loved Erica’s,
[00:22:51]
she had an AI generating lists of verbs
[00:22:55]
and nouns so that it could pick a
[00:22:59]
verb and a noun and use these two
[00:23:02]
keywords to create a silly random sentence
[00:23:06]
to use as the prompt for the drawing,
[00:23:09]
which I thought was really cute.
[00:23:15]
Yeah.
[00:23:16]
Can we look at Russ’s?
[00:23:17]
Russ’s was like absolutely insane.
[00:23:19]
That was called… Low code breaker.
[00:23:24]
Yeah, code breaker.
[00:23:28]
And the other one after going through
[00:23:30]
Russ’s that I’d like to spend two minutes
[00:23:32]
on is I think it’s called Heroes of
[00:23:35]
No Code.
[00:23:36]
That was something else.
[00:23:37]
I definitely loved that one.
[00:23:39]
Absolutely.
[00:23:41]
Russ’s was absolutely wild.
[00:23:44]
They had this like really novel thing
[00:23:48]
included.
[00:23:49]
And this game was the only one,
[00:23:51]
except Erica’s you could play as well,
[00:23:54]
I believe.
[00:23:55]
But Russ’s built was like to be shared
[00:24:00]
amongst everybody that wanted to copy it.
[00:24:04]
And the way he did it was he
[00:24:05]
had a base
[00:24:07]
that he built that was in his own
[00:24:09]
workspace.
[00:24:10]
It had automations in it.
[00:24:12]
And when you click a link that was
[00:24:13]
in the description of this YouTube video,
[00:24:15]
it adds you as a read-only user to
[00:24:18]
that base.
[00:24:19]
And then you duplicate that read-only,
[00:24:22]
your access to that base,
[00:24:23]
you duplicate it into your own workspace.
[00:24:26]
And it comes with a couple of tables
[00:24:27]
that are from his workspace as well that
[00:24:30]
sync out into yours.
[00:24:32]
And that’s key because it lets you connect
[00:24:34]
to all the other players that have
[00:24:36]
downloaded the base or have copied the
[00:24:38]
base into their workspace and play against
[00:24:41]
them.
[00:24:42]
and see the leaderboard as well.
[00:24:44]
And so when you copy that base,
[00:24:46]
there’s a couple little steps that he had
[00:24:48]
to take where you turn on an automation,
[00:24:50]
copy a webhook that it had in it
[00:24:52]
and connect to his Airtable server in air
[00:24:56]
quotes.
[00:24:57]
And that would let you find a player,
[00:24:59]
an opponent and actually play the game.
[00:25:01]
And I’ve played it twice now.
[00:25:07]
let me say two things about it.
[00:25:09]
One, uh, just, uh,
[00:25:12]
Russell was super bummed out when,
[00:25:14]
in fact,
[00:25:14]
Russell was the one who reached out to
[00:25:16]
me and said like, Hey Mike,
[00:25:18]
Will we be able to share games somehow
[00:25:22]
to actually get people to play?
[00:25:24]
And that’s when I reached out to Airtable
[00:25:26]
and say, hey,
[00:25:27]
can we do something about it?
[00:25:28]
Again,
[00:25:28]
we’re still hopefully working on it.
[00:25:30]
I don’t think that will be the case.
[00:25:31]
But maybe for the next edition,
[00:25:33]
if we do something similar,
[00:25:34]
we might get something different.
[00:25:36]
But he was really,
[00:25:37]
really interested in the actual
[00:25:40]
experience of the end user where they
[00:25:42]
could actually get to play what they were
[00:25:44]
building.
[00:25:45]
They were spending a lot of time on
[00:25:47]
it, a lot of effort on it,
[00:25:48]
and they really wanted this to be
[00:25:50]
something fun.
[00:25:52]
The second thing that I want to mention
[00:25:53]
is it’s crazy to me to see how
[00:25:56]
many people
[00:25:58]
Not sure how many of them,
[00:25:59]
but even if three did something similar,
[00:26:02]
that’s a lot for me.
[00:26:03]
Used synced tables.
[00:26:06]
Reason why I hate syncing.
[00:26:09]
Whenever possible, I try to avoid syncing.
[00:26:12]
So only the fact,
[00:26:14]
except when a couple of things happen,
[00:26:16]
either you really need to bypass the
[00:26:20]
record count limit or you’re building
[00:26:22]
something that needs to be
[00:26:29]
separate basis for confidential
[00:26:33]
information or sensitive information.
[00:26:35]
So unless those two criteria are met,
[00:26:38]
I try to avoid syncing as much as
[00:26:39]
possible.
[00:26:41]
So the fact that they did this just
[00:26:43]
for fun, that was impressive to me.
[00:26:46]
Very cool.
[00:26:52]
All right.
[00:26:52]
One more.
[00:26:52]
What was the other one you wanted to?
[00:26:55]
Try heroes of no code.
[00:26:56]
Heroes of no code.
[00:27:03]
All right, here we go.
[00:27:03]
I love this guy’s energy.
[00:27:04]
It was good.
[00:27:08]
Greg.
[00:27:10]
So if you click through it,
[00:27:14]
so basically this is,
[00:27:16]
I’m not familiar with the original game he
[00:27:19]
is basing this out of,
[00:27:21]
but basically the story behind this is you
[00:27:25]
are a no-code consultant.
[00:27:26]
You select your character,
[00:27:28]
you select a couple of skills or something
[00:27:30]
like that,
[00:27:31]
and you’re dropped in this map and you
[00:27:32]
start clicking around it.
[00:27:35]
What his clicking has two things to it.
[00:27:37]
There are tiles.
[00:27:40]
As you will be able to see,
[00:27:41]
you have like green tiles, gray tiles,
[00:27:44]
so on and so forth.
[00:27:45]
I believe that each of them means
[00:27:47]
something different.
[00:27:48]
But what’s more important than,
[00:27:50]
by the way, those tiles,
[00:27:51]
they are AI generated and they are found
[00:27:53]
on the back end.
[00:27:54]
So that is something that for sure Kamel
[00:27:56]
will really love as you really get to
[00:27:58]
see the Airtable structure of it.
[00:28:00]
And within the tiles or within the…
[00:28:03]
Some of these tiles, you get these,
[00:28:05]
I do not remember what he calls them,
[00:28:07]
but whatever you are,
[00:28:09]
whatever is popping up is like either
[00:28:12]
benefits or challenges that you face.
[00:28:15]
And that also has their own place within
[00:28:18]
the Airtable backend.
[00:28:21]
And all pictures for it were AI generated
[00:28:25]
in bulk.
[00:28:26]
So the back end.
[00:28:28]
And again, he is syncing.
[00:28:29]
So that’s enough for me.
[00:28:33]
So this was a really fun and interesting
[00:28:35]
game.
[00:28:36]
And pretty robust, I would say.
[00:28:39]
Yes,
[00:28:40]
this was just like that last admin
[00:28:42]
standing.
[00:28:42]
This was like,
[00:28:44]
I loved both of these for that reason.
[00:28:46]
It’s like all the images you could have
[00:28:49]
in your game as well.
[00:28:50]
Like everything was all driven by this
[00:28:53]
backend.
[00:28:53]
So cool.
[00:28:56]
Look at that.
[00:29:01]
Just absolutely incredible.
[00:29:02]
Like every single one,
[00:29:04]
if we could look at them all,
[00:29:05]
I would be like,
[00:29:07]
I feel bad not looking at them all
[00:29:08]
just because every single one I’m like,
[00:29:09]
oh wait,
[00:29:10]
in that no hit music bracket challenge,
[00:29:11]
like Sean McGregor’s, that was great.
[00:29:13]
I loved that one too.
[00:29:14]
It was super cute.
[00:29:16]
I was particularly fond of Darn Tootin’,
[00:29:19]
which was like a murder mystery.
[00:29:21]
Not really a murder mystery,
[00:29:23]
but it was like,
[00:29:23]
it was in the format of like a
[00:29:25]
noir,
[00:29:26]
like you would go in and you would
[00:29:27]
investigate a crime.
[00:29:31]
And again, please correct me if I’m wrong,
[00:29:33]
Kamille, but I believe that that one was,
[00:29:35]
again,
[00:29:36]
using this sort of native Airtable
[00:29:38]
interfaces, right?
[00:29:39]
Record review.
[00:29:40]
Yeah, oh, love that.
[00:29:42]
I think I have something with record
[00:29:43]
review, but they were really good.
[00:29:44]
Yeah, the test I did,
[00:29:47]
I didn’t submit it officially,
[00:29:48]
but I demoed it on the podcast,
[00:29:50]
also used record reviews.
[00:29:52]
The best one for games, apparently.
[00:29:57]
I love it.
[00:29:57]
I have a qualm with record review.
[00:29:59]
It would be my favorite layout.
[00:30:03]
But it’s the problem is it’s a detail
[00:30:08]
page, but you can’t reuse it.
[00:30:09]
Exactly.
[00:30:12]
And something, well, don’t get me started.
[00:30:14]
Because if you used them about a year
[00:30:18]
ago and you duplicated one,
[00:30:19]
it kept the original name,
[00:30:21]
which is not the name that’s on the
[00:30:23]
sidebar.
[00:30:24]
So it’s like under the hood.
[00:30:27]
It’s like inbox detail one,
[00:30:29]
inbox detail two,
[00:30:31]
that doesn’t match the name that you give
[00:30:32]
it,
[00:30:33]
which became really confusing when they
[00:30:35]
came out with Sandbox because that’s the
[00:30:37]
name it shows you,
[00:30:38]
not the name that you see.
[00:30:40]
So if they just used detail pages,
[00:30:46]
then you wouldn’t have that problem
[00:30:47]
because they don’t have that behavior.
[00:30:50]
Just let me point it at a detail
[00:30:52]
page.
[00:30:52]
That would be, I’d use it again.
[00:30:56]
Yeah,
[00:30:58]
that is absolutely true because that makes
[00:31:01]
it hard for scalability because if you
[00:31:03]
need to change things around and you have
[00:31:05]
both the record review and you have a
[00:31:07]
detailed page you need to go and we
[00:31:09]
have multiple times so many of these ones
[00:31:11]
you need to change things all around.
[00:31:13]
That is absolutely a great point.
[00:31:15]
Now, Kamille,
[00:31:16]
you bring something up that has been on
[00:31:18]
my mind for some time now,
[00:31:20]
and I might be doing something completely
[00:31:23]
off or not understanding something.
[00:31:25]
I’m having a very hard time when working
[00:31:31]
an area table,
[00:31:32]
when I check for dependencies on a given
[00:31:34]
field, for instance,
[00:31:35]
and I’m seeing what interfaces are
[00:31:39]
affected by this field or where this field
[00:31:41]
is being used.
[00:31:43]
I correct that the,
[00:31:44]
I’ll call it breadcrumbs.
[00:31:46]
I have no clue how to call it
[00:31:47]
this,
[00:31:48]
but the what’s being shown on the
[00:31:49]
dependencies tab is not really clear.
[00:31:52]
Like it says something like a name of
[00:31:55]
a page.
[00:31:55]
It says detail,
[00:31:56]
it says grid or something like that.
[00:31:58]
But I always have a hard time whenever
[00:32:00]
it’s not super clear where that is found.
[00:32:03]
I just go, okay,
[00:32:04]
it seems that I need to break this.
[00:32:06]
And a month from now,
[00:32:07]
I’ll figure out what that was.
[00:32:10]
Am I missing something?
[00:32:11]
No, because I do the same thing.
[00:32:14]
Because those links also aren’t clickable.
[00:32:16]
Now, I brought up Sandbox,
[00:32:18]
and Sandbox does give you a clickable link
[00:32:21]
to go to the page, so that’s helpful.
[00:32:23]
But the dependency checker does not have
[00:32:25]
it.
[00:32:25]
So good luck finding where that detail
[00:32:28]
page is used,
[00:32:29]
especially if you have like five.
[00:32:31]
So which of the several interfaces points
[00:32:34]
to the one that has, yeah.
[00:32:37]
Yeah.
[00:32:41]
They need an interface to show you all
[00:32:44]
of the record detail pages so you can
[00:32:46]
go to that page and at least click
[00:32:48]
through them.
[00:32:49]
One of my coworkers just built like they
[00:32:52]
use the blank layout and she just put
[00:32:55]
like stacked five like grids on top of
[00:32:59]
each other.
[00:33:00]
And the sole purpose was just to show
[00:33:03]
each one was tied to a different detail
[00:33:05]
page.
[00:33:05]
And I was like,
[00:33:06]
we shouldn’t have to do this,
[00:33:07]
but this was a good idea.
[00:33:10]
Yeah, I’ve done that many times.
[00:33:12]
I have two pieces of advice.
[00:33:15]
One is always the second you create a
[00:33:18]
detail page, name it.
[00:33:19]
Give it a unique name.
[00:33:21]
Don’t just leave it as record detail
[00:33:22]
because then you’ll be even more lost.
[00:33:24]
You won’t know where you’re looking for in
[00:33:25]
your dependencies.
[00:33:26]
Give it a name of the table.
[00:33:28]
then in the dependencies,
[00:33:31]
the one thing that I have noticed that’s
[00:33:32]
a little helpful, I agree,
[00:33:35]
it’s a complete mess about where you’re
[00:33:38]
actually trying to look in the interface,
[00:33:39]
but they do have a little icon next
[00:33:41]
to, if you click on the detail page,
[00:33:44]
then there’s a little icon next to the
[00:33:46]
things underneath it.
[00:33:47]
One of them might be like,
[00:33:48]
it’s like a test tube or like a
[00:33:50]
beaker, right?
[00:33:51]
A flask.
[00:33:52]
It’s the filter icon is what it actually
[00:33:55]
represents.
[00:33:56]
And so you see that icon,
[00:33:58]
you know you’re looking for a filter
[00:34:00]
somewhere.
[00:34:02]
Whereas if it’s like a little list icon,
[00:34:04]
it’s like probably just displayed in the
[00:34:06]
list.
[00:34:07]
But still,
[00:34:09]
You don’t know which filter.
[00:34:12]
I will also say sometimes it’s not like
[00:34:15]
you have set the filter for the page.
[00:34:17]
If you have a list that opens a
[00:34:19]
detail page,
[00:34:21]
any field that’s on the detail page is
[00:34:24]
a possible filter for the end user on
[00:34:27]
the page.
[00:34:28]
So it’s more like it’s either the setting
[00:34:32]
that you have done on the page,
[00:34:34]
this field is used in the filter.
[00:34:36]
or it’s a possible end user filter and
[00:34:39]
it’s just saying end users won’t be able
[00:34:41]
to filter by this if you remove the
[00:34:43]
field.
[00:34:44]
And sometimes I don’t want to be warned
[00:34:46]
about that because that’s not really a
[00:34:48]
setting.
[00:34:50]
I ran into a bug the other day
[00:34:52]
where I had a field set as the
[00:34:55]
end user filters,
[00:34:56]
the dropdowns at the top of the page.
[00:34:59]
I deleted it out of the base
[00:35:02]
because I didn’t need it anymore.
[00:35:03]
And I was like, whatever,
[00:35:04]
I don’t care about it being deleted from
[00:35:06]
that user filter.
[00:35:10]
And it removed it.
[00:35:11]
It was no longer visible on that screen,
[00:35:14]
but then I couldn’t publish the page
[00:35:16]
because it was saying there was a broken
[00:35:18]
field and it was weird.
[00:35:21]
It was just like,
[00:35:22]
it totally broke everything.
[00:35:23]
I had to go back and restore the
[00:35:25]
field and then physically delete the
[00:35:26]
dropdown and then delete the field.
[00:35:30]
I’ve never had it stop me from publishing
[00:35:32]
a page.
[00:35:33]
In fact,
[00:35:33]
it’s all too happy to publish a page
[00:35:36]
where the whole list is just broken.
[00:35:40]
Yeah, it was really strange.
[00:35:43]
I’ve never seen that happen before.
[00:35:49]
Okay,
[00:35:50]
let’s go through a couple announcements,
[00:35:53]
updates,
[00:35:54]
and then Mike will come back and see
[00:35:57]
what you’ve got.
[00:35:58]
And if you want,
[00:35:58]
you can share your screen.
[00:35:59]
It won’t go live till I put it
[00:36:02]
on there.
[00:36:04]
So yeah, big,
[00:36:06]
big congrats to everybody who submitted.
[00:36:09]
There’s amazing stuff.
[00:36:10]
We’ll put a link to these submissions.
[00:36:13]
Congrats to the winners, but everybody,
[00:36:16]
put a ton of effort into each of
[00:36:18]
these so congrats to all is there is
[00:36:23]
there already news for round three or
[00:36:27]
what’s what’s the plan for the future mike
[00:36:30]
oh that’s a good one um for sure
[00:36:32]
we do not have news right now however
[00:36:35]
we will absolutely have a third edition
[00:36:37]
fourth edition so on and so forth
[00:36:40]
Probably, I mean,
[00:36:41]
I should discuss with Ali how much you
[00:36:43]
can undertake and see what we can achieve.
[00:36:46]
But I guess we would probably have either
[00:36:49]
one or two additional editions this year.
[00:36:53]
A couple of things that are on the
[00:36:55]
back of my mind since we started with
[00:36:57]
this,
[00:36:57]
based on a couple of the feedback or
[00:36:59]
comments that I received when people
[00:37:01]
signed up,
[00:37:02]
is it would be amazing to have a
[00:37:05]
live on-site version of this.
[00:37:08]
either async where, hey,
[00:37:10]
this is still remote,
[00:37:11]
but in a couple of cities,
[00:37:14]
we have enough Quoramas to join or have
[00:37:18]
people meet for it, or say, hey,
[00:37:20]
we’ll have this edition will be fully live
[00:37:22]
and on site.
[00:37:23]
I don’t think the latter,
[00:37:24]
most probably the former.
[00:37:25]
I don’t think that will be anytime soon,
[00:37:28]
but that would be my end goal.
[00:37:31]
To actually get to meet Ali in person,
[00:37:33]
for instance, that would be nice.
[00:37:36]
And for sure,
[00:37:37]
most of the other builders who I did
[00:37:39]
not meet yet.
[00:37:40]
And do remember, did I mention this?
[00:37:42]
I’m based out of Buenos Aires, Argentina.
[00:37:44]
We’re pretty cool and chill people here,
[00:37:47]
but not everybody is into Airtable.
[00:37:51]
So getting something done onsite would be
[00:37:54]
very nice.
[00:38:00]
Yeah.
[00:38:00]
Cool.
[00:38:00]
All right.
[00:38:00]
That is the community hackathon.
[00:38:04]
Let’s start over here.
[00:38:07]
The what’s new since we last checked in.
[00:38:12]
Not a whole lot.
[00:38:13]
I’m realizing
[00:38:15]
that there’s other places where Airtable
[00:38:18]
is announcing new features.
[00:38:20]
So we’ll just go through these quickly and
[00:38:22]
then we’ll look at some other.
[00:38:24]
So something that came out in March,
[00:38:27]
three new ways to collaborate on your
[00:38:30]
records.
[00:38:30]
So let’s see what we got.
[00:38:32]
So attach files to comments.
[00:38:35]
So you can now find more things that
[00:38:40]
are hidden that are hard to get access
[00:38:41]
to.
[00:38:43]
You can resolve comments and you can
[00:38:45]
search notifications.
[00:38:47]
Let’s look at these.
[00:38:49]
This one was like close to what I
[00:38:51]
wanted.
[00:38:52]
Like,
[00:38:52]
I like that you can resolve comments,
[00:38:54]
but it still shows up as like the
[00:38:57]
comments badge of how many comments are on
[00:39:00]
a record, which I understand,
[00:39:02]
but it’s the reason I’m resolving is like,
[00:39:05]
I don’t want to be,
[00:39:06]
I don’t want this in my face anymore.
[00:39:07]
I kind of want to be notified about.
[00:39:09]
a brand new thing that I need to
[00:39:11]
address,
[00:39:11]
not things that are already resolved.
[00:39:14]
And then the searching notifications,
[00:39:16]
I wish you could search comments or
[00:39:18]
revision history, but you can’t.
[00:39:20]
You can search your notifications,
[00:39:22]
which is not quite the same.
[00:39:24]
Helpful,
[00:39:25]
but not what I thought it was gonna
[00:39:27]
be just by reading the list.
[00:39:30]
Yeah.
[00:39:32]
That’s true.
[00:39:33]
Great.
[00:39:33]
Yeah, and comments.
[00:39:34]
I’m curious if they updated the…
[00:39:38]
The API for comments to retrieve.
[00:39:42]
That’s where like comments are so hidden
[00:39:45]
and so hard to expose that we typically
[00:39:49]
don’t use them at all.
[00:39:51]
Dan,
[00:39:51]
are you making reference to the fact that
[00:39:53]
you cannot retrieve,
[00:39:55]
like list all comments,
[00:39:56]
but only on a record basis?
[00:39:58]
Or what are you making reference to?
[00:40:00]
Yeah, that’s part of it, yeah.
[00:40:05]
But ideally you you you could be able
[00:40:08]
to like sync all your comments into a
[00:40:10]
base or something into a table.
[00:40:14]
That would be nice.
[00:40:16]
Because you can do it API, but.
[00:40:20]
It’s inefficiently.
[00:40:24]
So that’s one and then this one.
[00:40:27]
I don’t know who’s all using data bricks
[00:40:30]
or snowflakes, but now you can.
[00:40:34]
do custom queries against it for your view
[00:40:37]
in.
[00:40:37]
So I don’t know.
[00:40:38]
Any of you guys using?
[00:40:44]
I’m not using either of those.
[00:40:48]
No.
[00:40:48]
This is obviously more enterprise coded.
[00:40:50]
But the idea of you have a larger
[00:40:53]
data set that doesn’t quite fit in
[00:40:56]
Airtable,
[00:40:57]
um i’m not too sure from like a
[00:41:03]
practical standpoint with hyperdb they
[00:41:05]
have this feature of like you can
[00:41:08]
temporarily load the entirety of the table
[00:41:11]
and only like link to the records that
[00:41:13]
matter for whatever base you’re in but
[00:41:16]
with snowflakes and uh databricks which
[00:41:19]
are also you know store millions of
[00:41:22]
records
[00:41:23]
that feature is not available.
[00:41:24]
So you have to set your SQL query
[00:41:29]
up top.
[00:41:30]
So you have to know in advance which
[00:41:32]
records you need to pull into Airtable.
[00:41:34]
So it doesn’t quite address, you know,
[00:41:37]
sometimes you need a lot more data than
[00:41:39]
can naturally fit.
[00:41:41]
Yeah.
[00:41:43]
Okay.
[00:41:46]
There we go.
[00:41:48]
All right.
[00:41:49]
A couple other things that they announced
[00:41:50]
in their community.
[00:41:51]
It seems like the community announcements
[00:41:55]
is where to look for new feature releases
[00:42:00]
more so than the what’s new.
[00:42:02]
I think some of these are not necessarily
[00:42:04]
new, but they’re recently replied to.
[00:42:09]
That’s right.
[00:42:10]
Yeah, so this is five months ago.
[00:42:11]
I was going to say,
[00:42:11]
I thought that this came out.
[00:42:12]
But then they announced that it’s now
[00:42:18]
maybe general release,
[00:42:19]
or maybe it was just a comment that,
[00:42:21]
okay, so yeah,
[00:42:22]
it’s just a comment that made it look
[00:42:24]
new.
[00:42:25]
Yeah, good call.
[00:42:26]
Okay, so some of these, yeah, yeah,
[00:42:31]
that’s not new.
[00:42:33]
Deep agent, this one.
[00:42:37]
Okay, deep match field agents,
[00:42:39]
a new type of field agent that finds
[00:42:41]
and links the most relevant record.
[00:42:42]
Is that new?
[00:42:44]
Relatively, within a month.
[00:42:50]
Okay, cool, cool.
[00:42:51]
Oh yeah, one month ago.
[00:42:54]
Yeah, okay, cool.
[00:42:56]
So that’s a new one.
[00:42:58]
I have not used that.
[00:43:01]
No, I haven’t used it either.
[00:43:03]
It’s potentially pretty useful.
[00:43:05]
So you don’t need like a complicated
[00:43:07]
automation, for example,
[00:43:09]
of match this record to this other record,
[00:43:12]
given like the fine record step in
[00:43:15]
Airtable is still kind of limited because
[00:43:16]
you can’t have condition groups,
[00:43:18]
but the deep match feature seems like it
[00:43:23]
can handle that level of complexity.
[00:43:27]
I have not been using it for actual
[00:43:32]
real purposes.
[00:43:33]
I did play around with it a lot.
[00:43:36]
Initially, it took a very, very,
[00:43:39]
very long time to find the corresponding
[00:43:43]
matches if it found them at all.
[00:43:46]
I think it had some sort of timeout
[00:43:49]
error if it took too long.
[00:43:50]
I’m not a hundred percent sure about it.
[00:43:52]
But I do know that it took way,
[00:43:54]
way too long.
[00:43:56]
um that was a big issue in fact
[00:43:58]
i’m pretty active in the irritable
[00:43:59]
community and i saw plenty of different
[00:44:01]
comments or interactions where hey this is
[00:44:03]
taking too long this is not working with
[00:44:05]
big with big bases um and lately the
[00:44:12]
the whatever I’ve been reading changed
[00:44:15]
drastically.
[00:44:16]
Like, hey,
[00:44:16]
I’m now playing around with big bases or
[00:44:18]
big tables, and it is working.
[00:44:22]
I do not know what the limit is
[00:44:23]
to the amount of records that it can
[00:44:25]
actually read and understand which ones
[00:44:28]
actually should match based on the
[00:44:31]
conditions or prompt that you applied.
[00:44:34]
But I would say that this is pretty
[00:44:36]
helpful,
[00:44:36]
and I’m sure that I’ll be using this
[00:44:39]
pretty soon.
[00:44:39]
Yeah.
[00:44:39]
Absolutely.
[00:44:42]
Yeah,
[00:44:43]
I have a- Does it automatically link or
[00:44:47]
yeah, you can turn it to- It does.
[00:44:48]
Wait right there.
[00:44:50]
Yeah, there’s,
[00:44:53]
my biggest question is like, if, okay,
[00:44:56]
I mean,
[00:44:57]
assuming it works and assuming it works
[00:44:59]
well,
[00:45:01]
is it more expensive in air quotes than
[00:45:05]
just running the automation?
[00:45:07]
Like say you have an audit,
[00:45:08]
like you need everything to be linked to,
[00:45:11]
like keep it linked to this record or
[00:45:14]
you know it,
[00:45:14]
you have the value in a formula field
[00:45:16]
and you’re like,
[00:45:17]
this is the record I need.
[00:45:20]
an automation would just take that value,
[00:45:22]
paste it in or like, you know,
[00:45:23]
find the record, whatever,
[00:45:25]
however you prefer.
[00:45:26]
But this could just do it directly.
[00:45:28]
You don’t need an automation,
[00:45:29]
but does it use a lot of credits?
[00:45:32]
Is it going to be slowing your base
[00:45:34]
down?
[00:45:35]
Is it I don’t know what’s more worth
[00:45:38]
it.
[00:45:39]
Mm hmm.
[00:45:40]
And the other question might be if it
[00:45:42]
uses
[00:45:44]
credits or a lot of credits,
[00:45:46]
does the credit usage depend on the size
[00:45:49]
of the table you are trying to link
[00:45:51]
to?
[00:45:51]
Because if I have huge bases,
[00:45:53]
that is usually when this would come in
[00:45:56]
handy.
[00:45:57]
And if that becomes too expensive,
[00:45:58]
that might be an issue.
[00:46:01]
But either way,
[00:46:02]
I do like this approach or this feature.
[00:46:06]
Yeah.
[00:46:07]
Yeah.
[00:46:07]
I’m excited about the possibilities that
[00:46:09]
brings.
[00:46:09]
Absolutely.
[00:46:12]
Okay.
[00:46:12]
This one’s not new.
[00:46:15]
That one’s not new.
[00:46:16]
I was going to say, I don’t remember.
[00:46:19]
Okay.
[00:46:20]
There’s the build-a-thon we already went
[00:46:22]
through.
[00:46:23]
Okay.
[00:46:25]
So I think the other Google drive,
[00:46:32]
that’s not new.
[00:46:33]
Is that new?
[00:46:34]
Six months ago.
[00:46:36]
Nope.
[00:46:37]
Okay.
[00:46:39]
And that one.
[00:46:40]
Okay.
[00:46:41]
Then the other one, so on their LinkedIn,
[00:46:46]
actually, I think Mike, you’re in here,
[00:46:47]
aren’t you?
[00:46:48]
Yeah.
[00:46:51]
There you go.
[00:46:52]
Oh, there I am.
[00:46:53]
Best community connector.
[00:46:55]
So these are community awards.
[00:46:57]
I love how they give themselves awards.
[00:46:59]
Best new product launch agents.
[00:47:02]
Okay, interesting.
[00:47:03]
To us.
[00:47:03]
Yeah, congrats, Max, as well.
[00:47:11]
Yep.
[00:47:14]
Yep.
[00:47:14]
Max.
[00:47:14]
Okay,
[00:47:15]
so here’s a couple other things that they
[00:47:17]
announced through their LinkedIn.
[00:47:19]
So the MCP builder tools is running out
[00:47:22]
to rolling out to GA.
[00:47:27]
So the official MCP, I think Mike,
[00:47:30]
is that what you’re using?
[00:47:32]
not exactly my point is i’m usually just
[00:47:36]
because i’m lazy and i never connected to
[00:47:37]
the official mcp i’m still using the
[00:47:40]
unofficial mcp so there’s there’s this
[00:47:43]
connector this unofficial mcp that has
[00:47:45]
been rolled out by different users or
[00:47:47]
whomever wanted to build that uh several
[00:47:51]
maybe
[00:47:52]
at least a month at least a month
[00:47:54]
before the official mcp went out i thought
[00:47:58]
that the official mcp would have
[00:47:59]
additional capabilities again i did not
[00:48:01]
play around with it so i might be
[00:48:03]
missing something but i don’t think i’m
[00:48:05]
missing out on a lot yet most probably
[00:48:07]
they will be working on it maintaining it
[00:48:09]
uh pushing upgrades or updates to it um
[00:48:13]
but that was fun yeah
[00:48:18]
okay and by the way what is your
[00:48:22]
experience did you guys play around with
[00:48:24]
uh any of the MCPs and do you
[00:48:27]
have any thoughts or opinions uh I played
[00:48:31]
around with it a year ago so probably
[00:48:34]
the unofficial one as well so I need
[00:48:36]
to try out the new one yeah never
[00:48:37]
yet
[00:48:41]
Yeah, but they do have,
[00:48:44]
I don’t know if this talks about it,
[00:48:46]
there was a recent webinar talking about
[00:48:50]
connecting Claude with it.
[00:48:51]
So that’s one worth watching if you wanna
[00:48:54]
go through,
[00:48:55]
I’m assuming the new Claude connector for
[00:48:59]
Airtable.
[00:49:01]
So I don’t know if that probably uses
[00:49:04]
the MCP underneath,
[00:49:07]
but they also released,
[00:49:10]
Yeah, here we go.
[00:49:11]
So Victoria released some cloud skills
[00:49:15]
that you can use as well.
[00:49:19]
And this one I’ve looked at,
[00:49:20]
I need to install these and use,
[00:49:23]
kind of created my own.
[00:49:28]
So that’s worth checking out.
[00:49:31]
Okay, they’ve upgraded their models,
[00:49:35]
their AI models that they support under
[00:49:38]
the hood.
[00:49:40]
That’s good.
[00:49:40]
These are the most recent ones I believe
[00:49:44]
for Opus and Sonnet.
[00:49:45]
I believe that’s the most recent.
[00:49:48]
So that’s good.
[00:49:49]
They’re up to date there now.
[00:49:52]
And there’s announcing Zach.
[00:49:55]
I think that’s all the, yeah.
[00:49:57]
So Cloud Connector,
[00:49:58]
that’s worth checking out.
[00:49:59]
I think that’s all.
[00:50:04]
Cool.
[00:50:06]
All right, we got maybe a few minutes.
[00:50:08]
I don’t know, Mike,
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if you want to share something.
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Sure, I’d be happy to.
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Oh, yeah, we have a few minutes.
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I could share my screen and kind of
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do a live demo of what I showcased
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on my submission for the Airtable
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hackathon.
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Let me see if I can share this
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adequately.
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Almost there.
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You can see my screen, right?
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There it goes.
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OK.
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So basically,
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a few days before the hackathon,
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I was like, hey, what can I build?
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What could be something fun?
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I could not come up with any fun
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or interesting idea.
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So then I said, hey,
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maybe I’m thinking about this with the
[00:51:03]
wrong approach.
[00:51:04]
Actually, what would I like to know more,
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or what would I like to see from
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Airtable?
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um thinking about different games thinking
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about different things i’ve had like hey
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where they will be could Airtable
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reproduce sound maybe for developers this
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is like hey obviously if you’re running
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this and that on the custom interfaces it
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obviously can reproduce sounds
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Well,
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I do not come from a technical background.
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I don’t have a technical background.
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I have no clue what I’m doing.
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And for whatever amount of years,
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we were not able to reproduce sound within
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Airtable interfaces,
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nor within the backend.
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So this was something different.
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I spent the whole time thinking, hey, now,
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if I can do that,
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then I could potentially do some sort of
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Guitar Hero game.
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Now, if I get to reproduce sound,
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how would I actually be able to showcase
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or show some sort of guitar or whatever?
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I said, okay, one step at a time.
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First thing I did is next thing that
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morning is
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Um, I went into Airtable.
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This is exactly what you see.
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This is as dirty as I did it
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actually.
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Um, actually if you come,
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this is a blank dummy base, right?
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If you go to interfaces,
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build it yourself, build an interface.
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I’ll move forward with it.
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Uh, and I tried to build something custom.
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Guess what?
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You can not do that, right?
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So that’s the reason why we have this
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table one,
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because I needed to start somewhere just
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to get things up and running.
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So second thing I did is let me
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try to find this.
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By the way,
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sorry if you hear my dog snoring on
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the back.
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right here this is the discussion that i
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had initially with omni uh let me try
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to read it but basically create a custom
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interface called test with three buttons
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upon clicking on them each should
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reproduce an actual sound musical notes by
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the way whomever is trying to do something
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similar
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I would suggest my understanding is that
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whenever we’re trying to build something
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on custom interfaces,
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I think it works regardless,
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but I usually select within the tools,
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generate a custom element.
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Either way,
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this is what I did and this is
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what Omni came up with.
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I don’t think you’ll listen to any sound
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coming out or from my interface,
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but basically,
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I had these three buttons where each of
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them, I can hear that,
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reproduces a different sound.
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As soon as I saw that,
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I was like, oh, wow, this is really,
[00:53:50]
really powerful.
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Not just because it can reproduce sound,
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because actually none of my clients will
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do anything with sound coming out of their
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interfaces,
[00:53:59]
but just realizing that this is way more
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powerful than what we usually tend to
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think.
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about it,
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which for sure will trigger different use
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cases in the future.
[00:54:10]
Again, not the sound per se, but hey,
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if it can reproduce sound,
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then most probably we can do X or
[00:54:16]
Y, embed videos or do whatever.
[00:54:20]
So as soon as I saw that,
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I said, okay, this is actually possible.
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So I went and also I said, hey,
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this is a great opportunity to play around
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with cloud and the unofficial MCP.
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So I went into cloud, which
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I could share,
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but I don’t want to take a lot
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of our time.
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I’ll have it on my side.
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First message,
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I created this base in Airtable,
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first message to cloud.
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I think I’m using cowork.
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Yes, I’m using cowork.
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I was like, hey, connect to this base,
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whatever the name of the base is.
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Cloud does his thing.
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It connects.
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OK.
[00:54:59]
I’m now thinking about building this game.
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I know that Airtable can reproduce sound
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based on a given test that I did.
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I want to build some sort of Guitar
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Hero game.
[00:55:09]
On my mind,
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I know that I should have, for sure,
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a table for songs.
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I should have a table for whatever notes
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are played within the songs.
[00:55:19]
So I’ll go left to right.
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We have songs.
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uh again we have three of them right
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here we have the name of the song
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the artist the bits per minute this is
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something that i mentioned on my video
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this is really interesting because whilst
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this feels they are kind of like a
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something that’s shown on the screen on
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the interface just to have a tag for
[00:55:41]
the name the bits per minute for instance
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actually makes the song has it have its
[00:55:48]
own rhythm right or or its own like
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bits per minute.
[00:55:53]
Duration, it works in a similar way.
[00:55:55]
It actually tracks how long we need to
[00:55:58]
play the song for.
[00:56:00]
Again, difficulty,
[00:56:01]
it’s not doing much other than alerting
[00:56:04]
the player how hard or easy the song
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is.
[00:56:07]
Genre, same thing.
[00:56:10]
And then we’ll go into the notes.
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This, as you can see,
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We are not actually tracking the note as
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whether it’s a C, a D, or E,
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or whatever.
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But what key should be played?
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Usually guitars will have six,
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how do you call them, chords?
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Yeah.
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OK, six of them.
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Guitar Hero, I don’t think they have six.
[00:56:38]
And therefore,
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we’re not using actual notes.
[00:56:40]
But what key should be pressed?
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Where each key on the front end on
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the custom interface has a different sound
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that gets reproduced by that, right?
[00:56:50]
The other thing that’s interesting is that
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we get the time offset.
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And as you can see, we have,
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for instance, this is the note ID,
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which will say this is happy birthday to
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you song.
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Note one, note two, note three.
[00:57:04]
So then on the front end,
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what we’re doing is, hey,
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how much time do,
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what’s the difference in time between note
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one and note two?
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That’s one thing.
[00:57:15]
The other thing that we’re doing is
[00:57:16]
whether the note we need to,
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it’s just a single tap on the note.
[00:57:22]
or whether we need to sustain or hold
[00:57:24]
such key.
[00:57:25]
If so,
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meaning if we need to hold such key,
[00:57:28]
for how long do we need to hold
[00:57:30]
that key?
[00:57:31]
So all of that information is being used
[00:57:33]
by the front end to actually show the
[00:57:39]
full song to you.
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The other, the last table,
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so this was kind of my discussion back
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and forth with Cloud Code, right?
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Or with cowork actually.
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The last thing that we have is actually
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place.
[00:57:52]
So these are all the different plays with
[00:57:54]
the corresponding player name, the score,
[00:57:57]
the accuracy, the max combo,
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how many right keys you hit,
[00:58:02]
and basically what’s the final outcome
[00:58:04]
result in terms of stars as a rating
[00:58:07]
and the date.
[00:58:08]
What’s interesting to see here is that
[00:58:11]
usually, as we were previously discussing,
[00:58:13]
the architecture of Airtable bases
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even if it hurts because I love the
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regular standard academic kind of
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architectures,
[00:58:24]
they do change a lot because a lot
[00:58:26]
of the processing is being done.
[00:58:29]
By the way,
[00:58:29]
we’ll go into the interface in a minute.
[00:58:31]
But a lot of the data processing,
[00:58:33]
meaning which keys, how accurate I was,
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so on and so forth,
[00:58:38]
is being processed by the front end
[00:58:39]
itself.
[00:58:40]
And it’s pushing to the back end only
[00:58:43]
the actual data needed.
[00:58:45]
I’m not showing which keys I played,
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which keys I actually got right,
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and which ones I failed.
[00:58:53]
But I’m just getting the aggregated
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results for it in a similar way as
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going the other way around,
[00:59:02]
and this might be
[00:59:03]
but going the other way around for
[00:59:05]
interfaces,
[00:59:06]
we don’t need to build all this kind
[00:59:08]
of roll-ups on the back to show them
[00:59:10]
on interfaces,
[00:59:11]
but we just have certain elements that
[00:59:14]
roll up that information for us.
[00:59:16]
In this case,
[00:59:16]
we’re going the other way around.
[00:59:18]
So as an end result,
[00:59:19]
what we have is
[00:59:21]
If we go right here,
[00:59:22]
we have different versions of the actual
[00:59:27]
game.
[00:59:28]
First one, this is songs.
[00:59:30]
To be honest,
[00:59:30]
the reason why I have this is because,
[00:59:31]
once again,
[00:59:32]
I cannot trigger the creation of a custom
[00:59:36]
page without having something on my
[00:59:38]
interface.
[00:59:39]
So I’m just listing the different songs.
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We have a couple of versions of this.
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either because I did not like the design
[00:59:47]
or because they did not work at all.
[00:59:50]
So in this case,
[00:59:51]
if I want to play the notes,
[00:59:56]
if I do this,
[00:59:57]
I will hear some sound because it seems
[00:59:59]
that notes are hitting these keys at some
[01:00:01]
point in time,
[01:00:02]
but I don’t get to see anything.
[01:00:05]
This one, my thought was, hey,
[01:00:07]
this is too kind of like arcade or
[01:00:09]
electronic.
[01:00:10]
I do not love it.
[01:00:11]
However,
[01:00:13]
It does work really good because it’s
[01:00:15]
really loud.
[01:00:19]
And this one,
[01:00:20]
I did like the design to it.
[01:00:23]
By the way,
[01:00:24]
the way in which I was working with
[01:00:25]
this is I was building the first versions
[01:00:29]
using Omni,
[01:00:30]
but then I was pushing the code to
[01:00:33]
Cloud Code to see, hey,
[01:00:34]
what can we improve with it?
[01:00:36]
I had some back and forth with it
[01:00:38]
before I pushed back.
[01:00:39]
the latest version of it.
[01:00:41]
FYI,
[01:00:42]
for anybody who is not a hundred percent
[01:00:45]
sure of what it is that I am
[01:00:47]
doing, if I click, so once again,
[01:00:51]
I was here with this outer border.
[01:00:53]
If you click on the actual canvas,
[01:00:56]
for instance,
[01:00:57]
and you see that this is a page
[01:00:59]
custom, right here you have three dots.
[01:01:01]
If you click on edit source code,
[01:01:05]
you will get redirected to this view where
[01:01:07]
you can actually play around with this.
[01:01:09]
So basically,
[01:01:10]
still manual because we do not have a
[01:01:12]
great connector to do this from,
[01:01:14]
this is my understanding,
[01:01:15]
from Cloud itself.
[01:01:17]
So basically,
[01:01:17]
what one would do is you would copy
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this and paste it on the other side
[01:01:22]
and then come back with a polished
[01:01:23]
version.
[01:01:24]
Do note that if you make changes in
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this way,
[01:01:27]
as soon as you do those changes,
[01:01:29]
you will not be able to go back
[01:01:32]
and use Omni with this version.
[01:01:34]
Because for some reason,
[01:01:35]
I agree that Omni is not aware of
[01:01:37]
what changes have been made.
[01:01:38]
It detects that changes have been made
[01:01:40]
without
[01:01:41]
only taking care of them and you will
[01:01:43]
not be able to do that.
[01:01:45]
So before making changes,
[01:01:47]
you might want to duplicate the
[01:01:50]
corresponding page.
[01:01:51]
Either way,
[01:01:52]
do note that you do have the history
[01:01:56]
of such source code.
[01:01:58]
Okay.
[01:01:59]
Either way.
[01:02:00]
And just to round up the idea,
[01:02:02]
we now have this better looking page.
[01:02:04]
We have some irritable color palette.
[01:02:07]
We even have
[01:02:08]
somebody, maybe Howie,
[01:02:10]
on the right Dancing to whatever we are
[01:02:13]
playing.
[01:02:14]
And this does work,
[01:02:16]
meaning that both notes come right there.
[01:02:21]
And as I press keys, that works.
[01:02:23]
And Howie’s Dancing on the side,
[01:02:25]
so he’s happy.
[01:02:27]
And therefore, I’m happy.
[01:02:28]
So that’s basically the full journey of
[01:02:31]
how I built this,
[01:02:32]
which was try to understand whether
[01:02:34]
Airtable can reproduce sound,
[01:02:36]
build a very basic MVP,
[01:02:38]
play around and have some fun with Cloud
[01:02:40]
Code and push the final version after a
[01:02:44]
couple of iterations.
[01:02:46]
But it was really interesting to see that
[01:02:48]
that can be achieved and also what the
[01:02:51]
Airtable MCP using Cloud Code is capable
[01:02:55]
of doing and what it is not capable
[01:02:57]
of doing.
[01:02:59]
I have a couple of takes on that.
[01:03:02]
This was a great opportunity.
[01:03:04]
And finally,
[01:03:05]
this is something that maybe took less
[01:03:07]
than an hour or so.
[01:03:09]
And it was still super fun to build,
[01:03:12]
super insightful to understand what can be
[01:03:14]
done and what cannot be done.
[01:03:16]
And it still makes for a fun Airtable
[01:03:18]
hackathon submission.
[01:03:19]
And therefore, that’s when, hey,
[01:03:21]
I encourage you, we do not need,
[01:03:23]
we definitely love them,
[01:03:24]
but we do not need the most robust
[01:03:27]
and complex systems out there to be
[01:03:29]
submitted.
[01:03:30]
Something fun that’s part creativity,
[01:03:33]
We can discuss them.
[01:03:34]
It will be fun.
[01:03:34]
We’ll see some new things and that should
[01:03:37]
be enough to have some fun for the
[01:03:39]
Airtable hackathon next edition.
[01:03:46]
Dan, you’re muted.
[01:03:46]
There we go.
[01:03:48]
Sorry.
[01:03:49]
Thank you.
[01:03:50]
That’s awesome.
[01:03:51]
Thank you for sharing that, Mike,
[01:03:52]
and for your work there with the
[01:03:54]
hackathon.
[01:03:55]
I think the moral of today’s show is
[01:03:58]
Airtable is no longer a business process
[01:04:00]
platform.
[01:04:01]
It’s a gaming platform.
[01:04:03]
So build your games, have your fun.
[01:04:06]
And we’ll wrap up here.
[01:04:07]
We’ll be back next week with some more
[01:04:09]
insights and tips and tricks.
[01:04:11]
And good to be with you.
[01:04:12]
And thanks again, Mike, for joining.
[01:04:14]
And good luck in future hackathons.
[01:04:18]
Thank you very much, Dan.
[01:04:19]
Thank you all for having me.
[01:04:20]
This was super, super fun.
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See ya.